How much would man pay for a Sugarbaby?

[Lucifersangel]

After seeing all the Sugarbaby post here.. My one curious question is what's the success rate of a girl really finding a good sugar daddy here? And most importantly, how much money a month is a average man on this forum willing to pay for a sugarbaby?

Seen alot of post here about those and prices are so different. Hopefully this post can show some girls the reality. Lets all be more realistic.

And guys I u don't mind state amount of meet up u think is reasonable for the price you r willing to pay. Or what should a SB state on their thread?


This is only a post with our 2cent worth of opinion. Feel free to walk away if you disagree.

[Koke]

hee, wanted to know the answers too.......

[HeadOn]

This kind has no fixed price one lar. It's all about ur ability n willingness to pay

Is up to the gal to ask for a price n then based on her looks, body n other requirement whether the guy feel it's reasonable n worthy

If u think u r avg looking n avg body then I think at best 2k only

[ferragamo]

I would say $1000

meet up 1-2 times a month

free dinners, wine, shopping

[pakalolo]

After seeing all the Sugarbaby post here.. My one curious question is what's the success rate of a girl really finding a good sugar daddy here? And most importantly, how much money a month is a average man on this forum willing to pay for a sugarbaby?

Seen alot of post here about those and prices are so different. Hopefully this post can show some girls the reality. Lets all be more realistic.

And guys I u don't mind state amount of meet up u think is reasonable for the price you r willing to pay. Or what should a SB state on their thread?


This is only a post with our 2cent worth of opinion. Feel free to walk away if you disagree.

The term sugar daddy is actually mistress or kept woman in the old days where the man give a woman a certain allowance monthly which can be anything from 1000 to whatever the man can afford or willing to give.
He will then drop by as and when he wants.
The arrangement can be long term or until the man find someone new or until he is bored with her.
The condition set by the man is that the girl cannot be dating others

This kind of arrangement is very common during the old days
This is an Asian things which you will find all over Asia from India to japan, in
Thailand they are known as 'mia noi' which is still going on today

But now it seem that some girls set condition such as limit the meet up time as well as asking for big money plus set age limit such as must be below 40 or something like that,makes me wonder who is buying who

Very few guys will pay a girl 2000 to 3000 a month and can only meet up for a few days becoz for that amount a guy can spend almost every other day with a FL and how many below 40 can afford or willing to spend that kind of money?

So I don't think the success rate is high when looking for sugar daddy here or anywhere else if there are condition set by the girls with asking high amount of money

Anyway with such high cost of living here in Sg, sugar daddy/baby relationship is going out of fashion

This is just my opinion correct me if i am wrong:D

[sane]

Anyway with such high cost of living here in Sg, sugar daddy/baby relationship is going out of fashion

This is just my opinion correct me if i am wrong:D

Before I read SBF, i only thought this exist in old skool movies :eek:

[cataramp]

ginna pi like me cannot afford sugar baby lah..

but go out movie makan walk walk still ok.. i never believe in paying for companion.. lol

[sugardaddy4fun]

Many girls still think everyone is earning $20K a month take home pay or more. Sad reality is 90% of Singaporeans are living in HDBs. Many are also living on rent and credit, taking loans. Very few people are really CASH RICH. That's a fact.

I'm sure the 10% of higher income working/non working Singaporeans, not all of them come to or even surf sammyboyforum.

Many people talk a lot of bullshit and offer insane prices for sugarbaby deals online, but how many are actually real? Nobody knows.

It takes a REAL rich man to be able to pay a girl just $2-3K a month CONSISTENTLY EVERY MONTH.

Anybody can pay $3K for 1-2 months, that's easy. Not many people can pay for 6 months-1 year or longer.

[gargar78]

Very few guys will pay a girl 2000 to 3000 a month and can only meet up for a few days becoz for that amount a guy can spend almost every other day with a FL and how many below 40 can afford or willing to spend that kind of money?

Anyway with such high cost of living here in Sg, sugar daddy/baby relationship is going out of fashion :D

Nicely said
Hence SB should do contract or charge per meet up basis
like this girl here: http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=370019&page=16

[kiasuking]

Many sugar daddies think that they have exclusive use of their "mistress" by paying a few grand a month but ends up sharing with many. Cos the gals wont be satisfied by a few grand. They will FL to earn more. I used to know of many such fls who are actually "bao" by sugar daddies.

[Lauteko]

In the hierarchy of excitement, the Chinese saying goes:

Wife is no better than Mistress
Mistress is no better than Lover
Lover is no better than Forced

Unless you want to risk going to jail, then "Lover" is the best choice. So better to let the rich sugar daddies "bao" the sugarbabies, then we become the "lover".. :rolleyes:

[HarryPopGer]

For a PRC singer,i will pay around S$3.5k-S$6k monthly base on a 6 months mutual contract until she leave for Singapore and when she comes back later,the contract can continues or i can choose to change girl. Larger hang flower joint which one of my boss frequent pays up to $12k per month for a 19-21 year old singer,the sad thing is he was rejected before by a new singer who is a 19 year old PRC when he offered S$12k/month...lol (i witnessed it)

The amount spent does no include Rental of a room or house which can cost an additional $800-$1600, base on personal experience.The PRC singer goes to work as usual as a singer in some Night Club..but forbidden to jump to bed with another man. Once caught in bed with another man or shows no interest,or vice versa to each other...contract is over. The PRC singer or the PRC sugar babe will be like my gf thru out the whole 6 months when she is in Singapore.

In the market,there are also other PRCs for hire as sugar babe,that cost between $1.5k to S$3.5k.(inclusive of room) But then i have a bad experience on that one,so will skip these type of sugarbabe as much as possible. They are students,masseur or even PRCs on visitor pass. The main problem is actually man's pride. Men who keep sugar babe do not like the idea of sharing. Due to the lack of time to accompany the babe,these gals often take up some part-time job in some ktv or massage palour which makes the man who pay them as sugar babe look quite stupid as they wouldnt know if they will jump to bed with another man or not. The bad experience i had many years ago was meeting my own sugarbabe in a massage palour offering massage to me recommended by a friend who says she does FJ...lol. It's a shame to me then,but then again..its been abt 10+ years ago and i learned my lesson from there. :(

Hopefully am on the right place to share this tho.

Thx for reading. :)

[Lucifersangel]

Nicely said
Hence SB should do contract or charge per meet up basis
like this girl here: http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=370019&page=16

This girl is date no sex ley.

2-3k is a good adverage but a lot of guys here are weird. 2-3k want to meet alot alot of time want girls to do all sort of stuff. Lol. But honestly I really don't get why some girls insist their SD to be a certain age too.. Certain age better meh?

[alexong93]

Won't waste money for sugarbaby.

get a gf, or get a whore?

[MagicFingers]

Many girls still think everyone is earning $20K a month take home pay or more. Sad reality is 90% of Singaporeans are living in HDBs. Many are also living on rent and credit, taking loans. Very few people are really CASH RICH. That's a fact.

I'm sure the 10% of higher income working/non working Singaporeans, not all of them come to or even surf sammyboyforum.

Many people talk a lot of bullshit and offer insane prices for sugarbaby deals online, but how many are actually real? Nobody knows.

It takes a REAL rich man to be able to pay a girl just $2-3K a month CONSISTENTLY EVERY MONTH.

Anybody can pay $3K for 1-2 months, that's easy. Not many people can pay for 6 months-1 year or longer.

Actually, even take home 20k a month, paying 3k for SB is also quite a sum. Once people earn a certain amount, probably buy nicer house and car, so those payments also go up.

Count SB allowance is 3k, meet up once a week, SD should have a car, and probably check in hotel to do the deed, so one night hotel also 200+, dinner at least 60-100 for two. Per week 300, one month 1.2k, maybe buy bag or clothes and other stuff for the SB, another 300-400 a month, so 1.5k - 1.6k liao.

So one month 4.5K fly just for the SB. For a once per week meet up, equals to about 1.1k per shot / or per night.

Count the SD other expenses, this is about 1/4 of his monthly take home. Assuming another 3k for his car (just say mid range car) and maybe 2k for his condo + all other misc expenses, even earning 20k a month still will feel the pinch to bao a SB.

[1118]

Nicely said
Hence SB should do contract or charge per meet up basis
like this girl here: http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=370019&page=16

if they charger per meet up basis, they should be called FL and not sugar baby.
I feel that sugar baby should be exclusive.
i still remember once when i check out of a hotel with a FL(PRC), over at the counter she spoke to her friend who is checking in. When in car i ask her more about that sweet girl(PRC) we saw. guess what, her BF/SD give her 10k per month as allowance.

there is not hard and fast rules on the price, when a guy can earn 20-30k p.m then what is the few thousands to him.

[freezetheDB]

general rule has always been exclusivity when it comes to sugar baby. Otherwise might as well go for WL/FL/ONS

[guess67]

I would say $1000

meet up 1-2 times a month

free dinners, wine, shopping

Got so low meh? :confused:

[sulphur]

If you are a high earner that carries a $20,000 a month income, you do not need to pay for a mistress. I am sure weekly that are girls that throw themselves at you.

Girls can try their luck, but it really takes quite a lot of it to work long term.

[Lucifersangel]

if they charger per meet up basis, they should be called FL and not sugar baby.
I feel that sugar baby should be exclusive.
i still remember once when i check out of a hotel with a FL(PRC), over at the counter she spoke to her friend who is checking in. When in car i ask her more about that sweet girl(PRC) we saw. guess what, her BF/SD give her 10k per month as allowance.

there is not hard and fast rules on the price, when a guy can earn 20-30k p.m then what is the few thousands to him.

10k? Walao! Still can have hater message me tell me I look sweet not worth any money one! Only model type can get high price. Sweet girl max 2.5k-3k kns. Regret never scold that ass back. If someone offer me 10k I also don't mind going into SB business^.^ Lol.

But rare case la. like 1 in 1million SB get such offer. Just curious don't these girls feel anything about selling themselves?
How do they convert back to normal dating?

[crazyivan6636]

In Indonesia, the university students (average age between 20 - 23) the going rate is US$500 per month for an average fair Chinese girl. She will stay with you at your place, or a rented apartment you rent for about US$300 per month.

A very good looking, smart Chinese girl can be had for US$1,000 per month all inclusive, where she stays with you, meets you for meals, etc and keeps you happy anytime you want to release.

For these arrangements, it is usually for a 6 month contract, where the girl goes for a medical first which you arrange, followed by monthly medical to make sure she's not pregnant or unwell with pills. No fooling around with other men is allowed during the contract, and the girl understands that she has to take it raw in the mouth or inside at your choice each time.

I believe in Singapore, the concept and principle is the same, where the focus is on girls from the Polytechnics or private schools > 18 years old. The rate you should be paying would be S$1,500 per month whereby she will be your live in girl friend if she is staying in a hostel or a paid apartment. Otherwise if she goes home daily, she would meet you up daily for dinner on weekdays and drinks followed by partying and overnight on Fridays and Saturdays.

The same medical and pleasure arrangements as above applies. These days such arrangements are common for students local or on student pass in Singapore to feed their lifestyle.

These arrangements are preferred by girls, as they don't need to service a whole bunch of different guys, and that when they enter into the working world, they don't get the unwanted surprise of having to polish a future colleague, customer or supplier's knob in the past.

In Japan this arrangement is very common.

[crazyivan6636]

By the way, some of the guys here asked if the girl can be very choosy e.g. the guy to be of a certain age, limited number of meet ups a week, etc.

This should not be the case, to the girl it is just like a part time employment contract, and the guy the employer. The girl should take the role and be prepared to please rather than be a dead fish or place so many limiting conditions for the arrangement to work.

Had seen some of the blokes who had a bit more money to spend, about S$3,000 per month who normally takes in 2 girls instead of one. These blokes are usually running their own business or need to entertain clients often locally or abroad whereby he usually takes both girls to such events.

So here you go a middle aged or guy in the 30s looking accomplished with 2 sweet girls in nice dresses flanking him left and right accompanying him for the event.

So, the pleasure part is necessary but its the way how you can flaunt the girls that also makes the difference.

Finally, for those of you guys who are now happen to think, if you have 2 how do you enjoy, some experienced advise given to me was over the weekends when you go out partying, you bring both, you dance with them, and go back to a nice hotel room with a large king sized bed with them. You either have both of them for a night cap cumming twice, or play double barrel shots where you take both of them on, and the lucky once get it in her. The fun continues in the morning.

Enjoy!

[pakalolo]

10k? Walao! Still can have hater message me tell me I look sweet not worth any money one! Only model type can get high price. Sweet girl max 2.5k-3k kns. Regret never scold that ass back. If someone offer me 10k I also don't mind going into SB business^.^ Lol.

But rare case la. like 1 in 1million SB get such offer. Just curious don't these girls feel anything about selling themselves?
How do they convert back to normal dating?

Guess the only person who can truly answer your question is a former SB:D

[justl00king]

I would think it depends on the quality of the gal and what she can offer. I have friends working in ktv/ fl trade being bao by SD, range from 6-20K per month. Some still continue to work part time while others just relax and enjoy.

I think it's crazy money to pay so much just for a pussy but then again, as long as one is happy. :cool:

[sane]

Y be SB :p be ambitious, hook for a lifelong ticket, then don't need to work, be a tai tai, u r also entitled to half of his fortune by signing the papers ;)

[ferragamo]

Got so low meh? :confused:

$5000 to $8000 meeting up 3 times a week

versus $1000 meet up 1 time, which is lower?

[newyorker88]

Actually, even take home 20k a month, paying 3k for SB is also quite a sum. Once people earn a certain amount, probably buy nicer house and car, so those payments also go up.

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Some gals feel 3K a month is not enough, due to their looks and so on. They think they made of gold? hahahahahha

[comics00]

2000~2001 I had a pdmm for almost a yr.

Had 2 session with her for massage & on both occasion I lures her into sex raw & she didn't charge me a single cent. Found out she has been here for 6mth & out of boredom & looking for extra allowance. That place is in marine parade area which r very strictly no extra svc r allow & I was lucky to hit on her b'cos she was high & dry for long time liao. I dated her out for couple of mths & convinced her to quit her job to spent more time with her then 12yo daughter while I 'help' her out with $1000 mthly.
For close to a yr I spend much of my free time with mother & daughter, sleeping over @her place, going out to place that local families wold, movies, route trip to Malaysia & Neighbours mistaking us as a family. All this while maintaining my official family I had choices where to go back to for soup after work.
Although I dote on her I sexually 'used' her. I was in my early 30s & she was 39yo, we were both horny & she being accomdating I unloaded in her more then anywhere else in my life. I wold show her porno & try out the stunt on her. I have tighted her up, anal her often, made her drink cum, suck me in public, did her in fitting rms etc... to go raw we fequent doc to get her pills. Once I came back from oversea ~2weeks high & dry I spent 2night over her place fucking ourselves crazy clocking 11rds b4 I go back hm on my official touchdown date from states...

[comics00]

When it was time for her to leave, seperation was painful for her. Thevnite b4 While i simply felt sayang fir losing a gd bonk she cried the whole nite even while riding crazily on me & sucking me dry. We were on bed from 10pm till sunrise clocked ~5 rds.

For almost a yr I was a faithful husband, thinking that I had enough & was begining to enjoy 'inner peace' without much sexlife I met 21yo Ling, 3rd yr student in ntu, 2nd & last gal I 包ed

[unsung80]

A pretty or smart sugar baby easily attracts ants on table. One might be sugar baby for many sugary daddies. In reality, i rather use the money to try different girls than eating the same one.

[PLSLETMETALK]

As a highly skilled profession bodyguard cum transporter travelling to many parts of the world , i had witnessed many girls selling their body for money and all of them ended up with bad health during their after years . So would suggest that girls should'nt do that , but instead of doing that , girls should go train themselves up and maybe can join in the bodyguard line like me .

[MagicFingers]

Some gals feel 3K a month is not enough, due to their looks and so on. They think they made of gold? hahahahahha

Eh, if made of gold I don't want. I want normal human de, warm and moist.. :cool: Haha, also depends on the SD la, if the SD can afford or wanna be Robert, they wanna give more, so be it. But usually if 20k a month, with family, a little hard to support a 3k SB.

[ramon]

Sorry, double entry

[ramon]

Forget about how much to pay. Some girls are desperate to accept minimum or ask for sky high prices and even if her attitude sucks the guy will think it's a good deal since he's just going for looks and youth.

I guess every SD got a budget to work with. Ultimately it's about how much your SB is worth to you, based on attractiveness, frequency and time spent on each meet, how well she can satisfy your needs etc.....

I need a SB because I never have time to go look for ONS, FBs or GFs.

FLs and WLs are out for me too because my timings are erratic and so my SB will book the hotel, check in and waits for me in my desired outfit for that day:D

Frankly, I think there's no clear line on what a SB should be. As long as she can meet my terms and satisfy me then I'm a happy man.

[guess67]

$5000 to $8000 meeting up 3 times a week

versus $1000 meet up 1 time, which is lower?

Orh, u are talking about per time, I tot per month :p

[MagicFingers]

I need a SB because I never have time to go look for ONS, FBs or GFs.

FLs and WLs are out for me too because my timings are erratic and so my SB will book the hotel, check in and waits for me in my desired outfit for that day:D

Frankly, I think there's no clear line on what a SB should be. As long as she can meet my terms and satisfy me then I'm a happy man.

May I ask if you have an SB (or more)? If yes, would you mind sharing with us the cost along with the quality of girl that you get for that price?

Thanks in advance.

[Lucifersangel]

May I ask if you have an SB (or more)? If yes, would you mind sharing with us the cost along with the quality of girl that you get for that price?

Thanks in advance.

U want SB POST YOUR OWN THREAD LA! SO LAZY STILL WANT SB. So many post dunno how to reply is it?


Anyway, alot of thread ppl commenting what market rate 10k -12k siao bo? So high meh?

I say so many time liao! The most important thing is:

SB lets be real la! U want young man lower your price range! He is young and rich! Go any bar also can hook for better quality girl for the low low price of 1 drink!

And SD fucking look in the mirror la! You are old and ugly that's why new SB! U better dig deeper for money la! If u can't offer 5k a month settle for average Woman la! Want SYT but pay 1k a month! U WAIT LONG LONG LA! Fair skin, busty and tall one can get 1k from richer man per meet! No need come to u. So cheap and picky still can complain this site no SB!

[naughtybabe90]

U want SB POST YOUR OWN THREAD LA! SO LAZY STILL WANT SB. So many post dunno how to reply is it?


Anyway, alot of thread ppl commenting what market rate 10k -12k siao bo? So high meh?

I say so many time liao! The most important thing is:

SB lets be real la! U want young man lower your price range! He is young and rich! Go any bar also can hook for better quality girl for the low low price of 1 drink!

And SD fucking look in the mirror la! You are old and ugly that's why new SB! U better dig deeper for money la! If u can't offer 5k a month settle for average Woman la! Want SYT but pay 1k a month! U WAIT LONG LONG LA! Fair skin, busty and tall one can get 1k from richer man per meet! No need come to u. So cheap and picky still can complain this site no SB!

chill la auntie. don't get so worked up over one online comment.
a smart SB would look for older and richer guy who can give them more allowance. my fren got an SD who gave her 5k per month, not included condo rent, car, gifts, shopping trip and joining him for Europe/USA biz trips (once every one or two months). she 25 he 55. she intro me to sbf bcos she knew him from here. and i also wan SD too. :D

[lotsfits80]

Let's say if you're paying $1000 it's equivalent to 10 times worth of $100 with 10 different girls. So the deal actually is worse for the male than the female because female's benefit is getting $1000 but only need to do with one guy therefore less exposure to other guys. So in this case female usually need to 'top up' the value, therefore offering at least 50% more as compensation, so $1000 should be worth at least 15 times. So $1000 is a good deal for monthly sugar baby if you're not meeting her everyday. If count all fridays and weekends that's 12 days + 3 extra days for weekdays.

In fact many girls who are in a 'real' relationship wouldn't even get that amount of money from their boyfriend every month, so $1000 a month is a good deal already. Paying more than that is not worth it. Don't forget that you
're taking her for meals and sometimes movies and shopping also. Don't be bothered by inflated prices, there is a lot of girls who will do for $1000 a month just for hanging out and having sex. I mean, sex should be enjoyed by both sides so if the girl is getting paid for doing something that she enjoys it's already good value, unless she doesn't enjoy it so why she bothers to do it in the first place? I wouldn't enjoy sex with someone who doesn't share the enjoyment.

As for quality it's just subjective. Someone who is attractive to one might not be as attractive to another. I say it's all about getting the right person rather than a perfect person. Besides, those who think they have perfect features will sell higher and tend to put a lot of conditions, but just leave those to millionaires. For standard market, I will stick to $1000, take it or leave it.

[francined69]

nah..............sugarbaby? we're only carrot head (aka Robert)to these so called "sugarbaby".

with that amount of money you can probably fly to China and have a different sugarbaby every night. hahahaha.........................

[hot-thong]

I enjoyed what you worte, may I ask where is the best place to get young sugar babe? preferably those at poly or uni. :)


In Indonesia, the university students (average age between 20 - 23) the going rate is US$500 per month for an average fair Chinese girl. She will stay with you at your place, or a rented apartment you rent for about US$300 per month.

A very good looking, smart Chinese girl can be had for US$1,000 per month all inclusive, where she stays with you, meets you for meals, etc and keeps you happy anytime you want to release.

For these arrangements, it is usually for a 6 month contract, where the girl goes for a medical first which you arrange, followed by monthly medical to make sure she's not pregnant or unwell with pills. No fooling around with other men is allowed during the contract, and the girl understands that she has to take it raw in the mouth or inside at your choice each time.

I believe in Singapore, the concept and principle is the same, where the focus is on girls from the Polytechnics or private schools > 18 years old. The rate you should be paying would be S$1,500 per month whereby she will be your live in girl friend if she is staying in a hostel or a paid apartment. Otherwise if she goes home daily, she would meet you up daily for dinner on weekdays and drinks followed by partying and overnight on Fridays and Saturdays.

The same medical and pleasure arrangements as above applies. These days such arrangements are common for students local or on student pass in Singapore to feed their lifestyle.

These arrangements are preferred by girls, as they don't need to service a whole bunch of different guys, and that when they enter into the working world, they don't get the unwanted surprise of having to polish a future colleague, customer or supplier's knob in the past.

In Japan this arrangement is very common.

[doctor sex]

I put an ad on craigslist and got loads of replies. Many were from aunties WTF!!

The younger ones were nearly all recent poly grads and most from ngee Ann lol. Average opening price from them was 3-3.5k per month for two meet ups per week so on average 8-9 meets per month. I met up with a few for coffee and they tended to be average looking and there were big problems with punctuality and cancellations. I never managed to agree on a price with any of them.

Cheaper and less hassle to get a FL although you dont get much of a connection and you don't spend much time with them.

[justl00king]

A smart sugar babe will have a few SD instead of just one, unless the sole sd is paying really well and demands exclusiveness.

Sure beats being a fl? ;)

[Lucifersangel]

chill la auntie. don't get so worked up over one online comment.
a smart SB would look for older and richer guy who can give them more allowance. my fren got an SD who gave her 5k per month, not included condo rent, car, gifts, shopping trip and joining him for Europe/USA biz trips (once every one or two months). she 25 he 55. she intro me to sbf bcos she knew him from here. and i also wan SD too. :D

CCB! Look at ur age before calling me aunty. U want SD ownself go get la. tell me for what sia? Go post ur thread.

I put an ad on craigslist and got loads of replies. Many were from aunties WTF!!

The younger ones were nearly all recent poly grads and most from ngee Ann lol. Average opening price from them was 3-3.5k per month for two meet ups per week so on average 8-9 meets per month. I met up with a few for coffee and they tended to be average looking and there were big problems with punctuality and cancellations. I never managed to agree on a price with any of them.

Cheaper and less hassle to get a FL although you dont get much of a connection and you don't spend much time with them.

Haiyo. Then set ur price earlier la? No need bargain ma. What's wrong with aunty? Know how to use craglist confirm some super savy aunty! Ask them bao u la^.~

[CasinoRoyal]

for some SD its mere sex, for others it is companionship/GFE. Same for SBs, it could be either just money or money + mentorship.

I have seen in 1k-10k p.m. in Singapore. more in lower side of range (1-3k) than higher.

As a SD, i decide on
- her companionship - talking, traveling , dinner with her is good experience. no blonde or bimbo
- confidentiality
- length of arrangement
- Time & effort she puts in keeping you warm, happy.


As a SB you would not want your partner to come in your personal life esp. in future & vice-versa.

my 5 cents ( inflation adjusted 2 cents ;) )

[Lucifersangel]

for some SD its mere sex, for others it is companionship/GFE. Same for SBs, it could be either just money or money + mentorship.

I have seen in 1k-10k p.m. in Singapore. more in lower side of range (1-3k) than higher.

As a SD, i decide on
- her companionship - talking, traveling , dinner with her is good experience. no blonde or bimbo
- confidentiality
- length of arrangement
- Time & effort she puts in keeping you warm, happy.


As a SB you would not want your partner to come in your personal life esp. in future & vice-versa.

my 5 cents ( inflation adjusted 2 cents ;) )

Then I am guessing you are looking for a slightly older SB like around 25 and above? Bet u can match with the girl above. From my 2 cent pov, alot of SD ask for travel and SB to spend time with them. But if u see in a lot of SB here they are all student. Some even student with curfew. How are they going to travel or spend a lot of time on you? Unless you are looking or drop out. But then again, you do not want "bimbos" which I am assuming lowly educated or dumb woman that is pretty looking but brainless.

What u have stated is what a lot of SD want. But where on earth are they going to find a baby young enough that have the time? It's easier to go for fresh grad(demand a lot of money) that come with all the time in the world because they r still jobless.

[bigangry]

the market price for a sq girl is at least 10k

[LovePotion]

wowwww so ex.... sweat...

[ThaiStar]

Willing buyer. Willing Seller.

[lotsfits80]

the market price for a sq girl is at least 10k

With that kind of money I enjoy better just by hanging around sociable places getting ONS or FLs. Could even get a FB along the way. Not that I have an ugly face or pot belly. Even my own features are still marketable on its own. Sorry to say but for me, nobody's worth that much. Not even a girl with perfect features. Maybe this much money is for someone who has a crapload of money but with a face that's hard to get girls.

[crazyivan6636]

At $500 a night, you could get most students to let you in thier temple for the night. Especially not the ones who are selling themselves over the net.

Especially if you drive, don't look like a person who would mistreat a girl and can treat them nice.

Pot belly or middle aged is not important. You can have all the looks and be young, but a poor attitude can throw people off.

Try it out by either putting out an Ad online or in tge singles column.

Personally, I have seen friends who are able do the same with $100 - $150 per night. These are girls who are here om student passes or singers.

[crazyivan6636]

There are always creative ways to go about, if not in your country try across where there is definitely local girls who need money for their lifestyle or books.

[MagicFingers]

U want SB POST YOUR OWN THREAD LA! SO LAZY STILL WANT SB. So many post dunno how to reply is it?


Anyway, alot of thread ppl commenting what market rate 10k -12k siao bo? So high meh?

I say so many time liao! The most important thing is:

SB lets be real la! U want young man lower your price range! He is young and rich! Go any bar also can hook for better quality girl for the low low price of 1 drink!

And SD fucking look in the mirror la! You are old and ugly that's why new SB! U better dig deeper for money la! If u can't offer 5k a month settle for average Woman la! Want SYT but pay 1k a month! U WAIT LONG LONG LA! Fair skin, busty and tall one can get 1k from richer man per meet! No need come to u. So cheap and picky still can complain this site no SB!

Nope, I didn't want SB, just want to ask for information, if the other person is willing to share about cost / quality, as he seems to have experience.

I don't think I did anything to offend you, so please do not shout at me for no reason. If you misunderstood me, my only intention is to ask bro ramon "the cost along with the quality of girl that you get for that price?" (of SB)

You seem to be quite offensive to others. Eg:

CCB! Look at ur age before calling me aunty. U want SD ownself go get la. tell me for what sia? Go post ur thread.


This is a forum, it's meant for discussion. Please do be friendly and discuss nicely with others, no matter what our own opinions are.

[Lucifersangel]

Nope, I didn't want SB, just want to ask for information, if the other person is willing to share about cost / quality, as he seems to have experience.

I don't think I did anything to offend you, so please do not shout at me for no reason. If you misunderstood me, my only intention is to ask bro ramon "the cost along with the quality of girl that you get for that price?" (of SB)

You seem to be quite offensive to others. Eg:



This is a forum, it's meant for discussion. Please do be friendly and discuss nicely with others, no matter what our own opinions are.

Be friendly to troublemaker? Oh ya SUREEEEE. This thread is call "how much you would pay for a suagrbaby! Go make trouble and ask for totally unrelated info on another thread and see how friendly u get treated k. Fuck off already! U want info on how to get SB or wanna ask for free pussy GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! HATE WHEN PPL TRY TO ADVERTISE HERE FOR WHAT THEY WANT!

U want info for a SB go find that CCB! She is happily looking for SD here. FUCK OFF. U WANNA HELP TROUBLEMAKER GO START YOUR OWN THREAD TO SEEK INFO ON HOW U CAN GET A SB! SHOOOOO!

I didn't know TEXT can shout! U have a lot of imagination. Fucking dream on I will give u any contact for free pussy! Go fuck yourself!

U want to DISCUSS UNRELATED TOPIC GO AHEAD. START YOUR OWN THREAD! DONT BE SO FUCKING LAZY!

[doctor sex]

Haiyo. Then set ur price earlier la? No need bargain ma. What's wrong with aunty? Know how to use craglist confirm some super savy aunty! Ask them bao u la^.~

I'm not going to set any price for anything until I see the goods that are on offer.

These aunties were 'very aunty'. And 'aunty' specifications weren't in the original tender document.

[MagicFingers]

Be friendly to troublemaker? Oh ya SUREEEEE. This thread is call "how much you would pay for a suagrbaby! Go make trouble and ask for totally unrelated info on another thread and see how friendly u get treated k. Fuck off already! U want info on how to get SB or wanna ask for free pussy GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! HATE WHEN PPL TRY TO ADVERTISE HERE FOR WHAT THEY WANT!

U want info for a SB go find that CCB! She is happily looking for SD here. FUCK OFF. U WANNA HELP TROUBLEMAKER GO START YOUR OWN THREAD TO SEEK INFO ON HOW U CAN GET A SB! SHOOOOO!

I didn't know TEXT can shout! U have a lot of imagination. Fucking dream on I will give u any contact for free pussy! Go fuck yourself!

U want to DISCUSS UNRELATED TOPIC GO AHEAD. START YOUR OWN THREAD! DONT BE SO FUCKING LAZY!

Seems like you have anger management issues. Typing in capital letters is the online equivalent of shouting. If you didn't know this before, take it as you're being informed now. I would think that most people who have been online for any length of time would know this already, but maybe it might have escaped your notice.

I was on the topic of sugarbaby, just asking a fellow forumer for information. I don't need any contact information from you, nor do I want them. Keep them to yourself. My original question was directed to bro ramon. At no time did I ask for contact information or "free pussy" as you allege.

Since it seems you are unable to comprehend what I wrote, and have either inferiority issues or anger management issues, this will be my last comment towards you. Feel free to curse and swear at me if you wish, but I wish nothing but knowledge and intelligence on you. You do seem to be in dire need of both. And a lot of patience too.

[gameboytong15]

There's a short article in yesterday's New Paper. But it also mention a website can go to.

http://www.tnp.sg/content/looking-sugar-daddy

[lotsfits80]

There's a short article in yesterday's New Paper. But it also mention a website can go to.

http://www.tnp.sg/content/looking-sugar-daddy

The comments are funny. It seems that they don't realize men are not the only ones enjoying sex, women can enjoy sex too. And what's better than enjoying what you do and getting paid for it? The working time is much shorter and flexible than a 9-5 so there's nothing to be surprised about women who choose this path. Some are despising these women on moral grounds but let's face it, we all do immoral things one way or another, who are we to judge?

[sane]

In fact many girls who are in a 'real' relationship wouldn't even get that amount of money from their boyfriend every month, so $1000 a month is a good deal already.


U cant compare gals seeking for real relationship to SB.

To them, they are seeking for a man who will love, cherish, a father to their future children, a man to walk through the rest of the life with them and not for older men who change SB to SB, using $$ for exchange of youth and body.

So IMO, $1000 or even a few couple thousands of dollars is no big deal compared to a lifetime. ;)

[justl00king]

There's a short article in yesterday's New Paper. Thanks for the article.

So market rate is around 1500, reasonable fee to pay for some sex and companionship. ;)

[warbird]

Great thread!

I'm always looking for pretty SYTs as mistresses. Prefer ethnic Chinese but will consider other races. Must be over 163cm in height w/ at least natural B cup n proportionate figure.

If u know of someone who is interested n who may qualify, PM me. Will be happy to pay finder's fee.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[Bigbanger]

I've met local girls who think they're worth $10,000 per month, but mostly that's just wishful thinking. Interestingly many girls without an SD talk about how they've been offered large amounts but declined it. Haha! The reality is that there is a lot of hot air, and of course our Singaporean princesses are quick to assume that they are worth their weight in gold, but the more realistic number is around $2000 - $3000 unless the girl is some fantastic beauty. Then she should become a model, and make millions!

Sure, some besotted millionaire might pay $10,000 for some stunning girl, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the red Ferrari gang with their hot money (all cash!) are throwing stupid amounts at women who catch their fancy. Maybe for that lot it is a prestige symbol to have a "Singapore Girl" but even so not too many can afford $10,000 for long. These are all exceptions. Remember, there are additional costs too as already pointed out by other Bros here.

I admit that our girls are smart, talk well and are good company and, for a non-Chinese SD, they have the added attraction of speaking English well. For an older guy a young companion brings a new spark to his life, while the girl gets access to a more comfortable life, and I increasingly see older men & younger women of all nationalities together.

Time to sign up, I think. Any SYT thing looking for an SD in my budget do PM me :)

[MagicFingers]

I've met local girls who think they're worth $10,000 per month, but mostly that's just wishful thinking. Interestingly many girls without an SD talk about how they've been offered large amounts but declined it. Haha! The reality is that there is a lot of hot air, and of course our Singaporean princesses are quick to assume that they are worth their weight in gold, but the more realistic number is around $2000 - $3000 unless the girl is some fantastic beauty. Then she should become a model, and make millions!

Time to sign up, I think. Any SYT thing looking for an SD in my budget do PM me :)

Funny how that doesn't just work for SB/SD, but for modelling contracts too. I've heard local girls claiming that they were offered substantial modelling contracts, but they're still working as OLs or a entry level executive, living from month to month. If they had such a lucrative contract and they're obviously willing to work in that line, why aren't they doing it already?

When pressed, they usually give different reasons, but I guess a lot of Singaporeans, whether guys or gals, have the entitled or a little delusion of self worth / grandeur.

Good luck with your SB hunt!

[Lucifersangel]

Great thread!

I'm always looking for pretty SYTs as mistresses. Prefer ethnic Chinese but will consider other races. Must be over 163cm in height w/ at least natural B cup n proportionate figure.

If u know of someone who is interested n who may qualify, PM me. Will be happy to pay finder's fee.

Cheers!

Bro WB


Finder fee like what? If u deal with her then finder get paid or just intro someone with such stats finder get paid?

Actually hor pay aside. I think a lot of SB here quite poor thing. Not many man understand a real SD is need connection one. Alot of ppl here think as long as they pay all SB should shut up and fuck them. This is all I have to say. A girl with high expection for guys like (no raw or anal and must be clean) mean that she is clean and she know what she is doing. But honestly, this is not to forum for this kind of SD la. u r better off at craglist.

[TempLust]

Please pardon my cynism in the purpose of your thread.

Every SD has a budget and every SB has a price. It is all relative to the value of the circumstances that they are in at the moment to put a number to the exchange.

SD looks for a SB instead of a FL for reasons that are beyond just a one pop gratification. SB looks for a SD instead of just a client for their own reasons. I'm not a girl, so I'm not going to make guesses or speculate on the rationale.

To certain extent, it is another form of courtship where there is a number game involved to establish a verbal contract that's gotta be agreed by both parties. There will be certain aspect of physicality in the individuals involved. There will be aspect of personality that comes into play. That is a key difference that do not exist between client and FL.

It's hard to be with another person on a mid or long term basis if either aspect, physical an/or personality turn off the other. Some SD might be agreeable to burst a budget just like a SB might be willing to take a little less there are certain aspects that appeals and convince of an intrinsic value.

Between a low paying Brad Pitt or George Clooney versus a high paying Mike Tyson. Who would you pick ?

[justdifferent]

not a single cent.

part of the fun of a relationship, be it casual, serious, sexual or anything in nature is because your partner wants you.

even in a friendship, you want friends who really like you and enjoy your company.

this is slightly digressing but wouldn't paying for companionship and sex defeat the entire purpose altogether?

going back onto topic, i believe the money can be put to better use. no offence to the singaporean ladies around - while not all of them are materialistic, a huge portion are. i've seen it happen so many times around me, a girl getting interested in a guy just because he has money to throw around.

in that case, why pay for a sugarbabe? if you play your cards right you could probably hook up with an attractive and materialistic girl.

[TwinX]

I had a SB some time back by chance. A SYT in 20s B cup who I got to know in pubs run into some financial difficulties. At first loan her $200 which I don't expect to get back. Then loan her another $800 which she was very grateful and ended up bonking her in my car. It was not planned.
From then onwards, I gave her $1k every month and bonked her 2 times per week. Meals, shopping and other expenses are paid by me. She can go out with other guys but no sex with them. Total spent about $2k on her monthly. Lasted for a year. ;)

Had another SB intro by friend. Late 20s but sexy look and C cup. Charge $5k per monthly excluding meals, shopping etc. Bonk her 4-5 times per week and she does not go out with other guys. Lasted 2 months and stopped. I was very broke by then. :(

Both are sg locals. Had other non-locals. From what i learnt, every girl has different price. Doesn't mean better quality will be more expensive.

[lotsfits80]

U cant compare gals seeking for real relationship to SB.

To them, they are seeking for a man who will love, cherish, a father to their future children, a man to walk through the rest of the life with them and not for older men who change SB to SB, using $$ for exchange of youth and body.

So IMO, $1000 or even a few couple thousands of dollars is no big deal compared to a lifetime. ;)

That's why... All that commitment from a man and you hear of husbands that get very little sex, uninteresting sex to no sex at all. And women still blame why men hate marriages?

[sane]

That's why... All that commitment from a man and you hear of husbands that get very little sex, uninteresting sex to no sex at all. And women still blame why men hate marriages?

Being a working mum with kids in tows is not easy but but I had always told my friends who put their kids in the first priority.

Do not ever let go of themselves, kids are important but not to the extend of spending every minute of their existing time to them. 1 day the kids will grow up too ...

They neglect themselves, no time to shop, no time to workout, no time for friends, no time for themselves. Do u think they have time for hb?

They make themselves seem so motherly, unattractive, dull and bored. How to compare to the SYTs out there?

There's a balance of everything, do not wait till too late then start to make changes. By that time, it will be too late!

[porscheclub]

Just prepare to spend S$3-5K average a month all-in excluding apartment & rental's getting expensive here now.

A model quality. Eg. 23+/- 1.75, min full B-C cup, slender, attractive, well groomed & holds good conversations etc can command five figures.

Modelling jobs on average don't pay well. Magazines trade exposures for your time while agencies/agents take the cut so a lot of models need a day job.

You won't find quality SYT SBs for under S$2K unless the sessions are just a few per month.

[Lucifersangel]

Please pardon my cynism in the purpose of your thread.

Every SD has a budget and every SB has a price. It is all relative to the value of the circumstances that they are in at the moment to put a number to the exchange.

SD looks for a SB instead of a FL for reasons that are beyond just a one pop gratification. SB looks for a SD instead of just a client for their own reasons. I'm not a girl, so I'm not going to make guesses or speculate on the rationale.

To certain extent, it is another form of courtship where there is a number game involved to establish a verbal contract that's gotta be agreed by both parties. There will be certain aspect of physicality in the individuals involved. There will be aspect of personality that comes into play. That is a key difference that do not exist between client and FL.

It's hard to be with another person on a mid or long term basis if either aspect, physical an/or personality turn off the other. Some SD might be agreeable to burst a budget just like a SB might be willing to take a little less there are certain aspects that appeals and convince of an intrinsic value.

Between a low paying Brad Pitt or George Clooney versus a high paying Mike Tyson. Who would you pick ?

U would be amazed now many ppl would choose the guy who pay more. This is what make this kind of relationship interesting and really intrigue me. It make no sense and go against all normal animal instinct.




not a single cent.

part of the fun of a relationship, be it casual, serious, sexual or anything in nature is because your partner wants you.

even in a friendship, you want friends who really like you and enjoy your company.

this is slightly digressing but wouldn't paying for companionship and sex defeat the entire purpose altogether?

going back onto topic, i believe the money can be put to better use. no offence to the singaporean ladies around - while not all of them are materialistic, a huge portion are. i've seen it happen so many times around me, a girl getting interested in a guy just because he has money to throw around.

in that case, why pay for a sugarbabe? if you play your cards right you could probably hook up with an attractive and materialistic girl.

You are young that's why u ask this question. The guy above u already answered your question. This is just another form of courtship. A kind of number game. These man are playing their cards too. Their gold card.




Just prepare to spend S$3-5K average a month all-in excluding apartment & rental's getting expensive here now.

A model quality. Eg. 23+/- 1.75, min full B-C cup, slender, attractive, well groomed & holds good conversations etc can command five figures.

Modelling jobs on average don't pay well. Magazines trade exposures for your time while agencies/agents take the cut so a lot of models need a day job.

You won't find quality SYT SBs for under S$2K unless the sessions are just a few per month.

I simply must agree. But some how this is very unreasonable. Any Tom, Dick or Harry can call themselves "model" pay a couple of hundreds and be a freelance one. Hit most of the above qualification except I am not 173. Haha sad can only get the lower end if man. Lol.

But honestly. Not many man willing to really spring out 5k. Even a average uni grad fresh grad don't make 5k a month. No wonder so many young woman are jumping on this. But honestly speaking, most of the sugarbaby here can't make it for the "hold good conversation" catagory.

[TempLust]

U would be amazed now many ppl would choose the guy who pay more. This is what make this kind of relationship interesting and really intrigue me. It make no sense and go against all normal animal instinct.

You are young that's why u ask this question. The guy above u already answered your question. This is just another form of courtship. A kind of number game. These man are playing their cards too. Their gold card.



Wwwaaahahhahaa....think you've just made an insinuation that I am an old man !!!

Other than this thread, how far have you explored to satisfy that interest and intrigue ?

Would really be nice if there is a real SB writing her joy and woes in such a relationship.

[woody17]

Hi Bro Warbird
Thanks for referring the PRC SB agent to me. He did introduce several to me: ~19, 165cm+, fair skin, clean profession viz has not worked in KTV or suana b4 at RMB15,000-30,000/month. Interesting that he trusted me (probably because of you) and did not need me to pay him finder's fee upfront.

[JChoo]

I can share something that I heard.

One gal who is married now told me that she was had worked as a FL and didn't like it because she had to sleep with all sorts of guys and many of these guys had strange behaviours. She didn't elaborate on what this strange behavours were. One day she was introduced to be a SB by her friend in the modelling line. She charged $1,500 per month. It was 2 years ago. The guy can date her as many times as he wish but usually, he only meet her like twice a week unless he can bring her on overseas business trip.

[JChoo]

2000~2001 I had a pdmm for almost a yr.

Had 2 session with her for massage & on both occasion I lures her into sex raw & she didn't charge me a single cent. Found out she has been here for 6mth & out of boredom & looking for extra allowance. That place is in marine parade area which r very strictly no extra svc r allow & I was lucky to hit on her b'cos she was high & dry for long time liao. I dated her out for couple of mths & convinced her to quit her job to spent more time with her then 12yo daughter while I 'help' her out with $1000 mthly.
For close to a yr I spend much of my free time with mother & daughter, sleeping over @her place, going out to place that local families wold, movies, route trip to Malaysia & Neighbours mistaking us as a family. All this while maintaining my official family I had choices where to go back to for soup after work.
Although I dote on her I sexually 'used' her. I was in my early 30s & she was 39yo, we were both horny & she being accomdating I unloaded in her more then anywhere else in my life. I wold show her porno & try out the stunt on her. I have tighted her up, anal her often, made her drink cum, suck me in public, did her in fitting rms etc... to go raw we fequent doc to get her pills. Once I came back from oversea ~2weeks high & dry I spent 2night over her place fucking ourselves crazy clocking 11rds b4 I go back hm on my official touchdown date from states...

This type of PDMM that is still attractive and not too expensive is good to have. If she is still available, you can intro to me.

[JChoo]

Thanks for the article.

So market rate is around 1500, reasonable fee to pay for some sex and companionship. ;)

Yup, I think so. Some would charge higher if they are younger and more desireable. Others may charge lower if they are older. Anyway, as long as it is between consenting adults, who cares.

[Beachsea]

Hi Bro Warbird
Thanks for referring the PRC SB agent to me. He did introduce several to me: ~19, 165cm+, fair skin, clean profession viz has not worked in KTV or suana b4 at RMB15,000-30,000/month. Interesting that he trusted me (probably because of you) and did not need me to pay him finder's fee upfront.

Wah bro you also got this lobang?
Yea , i was given that rate too. $15,000RMB to $100,000RMb.
Say they have good job , clean and don't chiong KTV or so .

But i was like ,, WTF! you guys are earning an average of $3000rmb?
How to know the girls don't chiong? they say until their girls are the best...
i was like unless super pretty can consider lo....but ...seriously , they
think Singaporeans man Are dumb ? (partly Yes la , Singapore Man contributed to a lot , when out of the blue a lot of China ladies become 'towkays' , opening business /shops in singapore or china ':D

[hoian]

Actually my PRC friend raised this question to me once while we were checking out one of the local hang-flower KTVs.

She: Where in the world can you think of... where guys who would spend S$1K - S$5K just to hang flowers on a singer?
Me: Hahaha... u r right.
She: Seriously, if this business were in China, the owner would be swatting flies.

....but ...seriously , they think Singaporeans man Are dumb ? (partly Yes la , Singapore Man contributed to a lot , when out of the blue a lot of China ladies become 'towkays' , opening business /shops in singapore or china ':D

[Beachsea]

[
She: Where in the world can you think of... where guys who would spend S$1K - S$5K just to hang flowers on a singer?
Me: Hahaha... u r right.
She: Seriously, if this business were in China, the owner would be swatting flies.[/QUOTE]

Yes bro you are right.
Singaporeans are stupid and famous for these. Yet if you ask, you get stupid answers; they are rich , they can spend like this lo.

the problem is , Rich is not main matter... the thing is WTF-- does they even worth that price? !!???

Do those guys even give their dying relatives $1000 whom are bed ridden with illness or cant even afford a meal?
Or towards those needy ppl or charities?

Ultimately , they are spoiling the market...and those PRCs are laughing all the way to the bank.......:D

I have heard before friends telling me they spend for 'Bai Dao aka face '' ,
I was like ya....when you no money..whatever 'bai dao' also zero!