Change your Handpone now!!!!

[Johnston]

Well im no up to th standard of the recent bro who poste a coulple of posts... but ... if u gots the time (5 mins)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_device_forensics

And further proof you should NOT be carrying IPhone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears

Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.

The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.


Feel like lining up for IPhone 5 Now???? ;)

http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/
Some good people have an APp that may help to see if your IPhone is bugg :rolleyes:

And most shocking

British researchers on Wednesday revealed that iPhones (and 3G-enabled iPads) keep track of where you go, including timestamps, on a file that is backed up on your computer and shifted onto any new iPhone or iPad you get. Apple hasn't said why the file is created or whether the tracking can be prevented.

This news is HOT from Wednesday 20 April 2011 14.06 BST, gentlemen!!!

How much u wanna bet that until 20 April 2012 Straits Time Digital Lie wont tell u about it???? :eek:

[The Lord]

I agree

Hence i just keep very simple phones like the $35 Nokia 1616 phone.

Pretty much useful for call and text and nothing else.

The problem with Smartphones is they incorporate applications like Facebook that track your location which if your bosses are on your facebook will reveal to them where you are at what time.

Oh my gosh!

[loneyheart]

Tats why smart phone r too smart for doing something more private n confidential

So just keep a simple phone to make life more simple :cool:

[GoeGoeGoe]

Seriously there isnt anything wrong with Smart Phones. The thing is to know how to keep your tracks well hidden.

[Johnston]

Seriously there isnt anything wrong with Smart Phones. The thing is to know how to keep your tracks well hidden.

You cant be serious, before 20 april 2011 every man jack think IPhone is the shits. Now it got different story.... waiting for Apple to tell the world Why the Iphone need to know where u were and then why it upload to your comp //:rolleyes:

[Window7]

Can't wait for Iphone 5

[Johnston]

In Other News!!!!

http://www.geekosystem.com/cellebrite-cellphone-hacker/
The device, called the Cellebrite UFED, has been tested by the Department of Justice which reported the device was capable of pulling all photos and video from an iPhone in under a minute and a half. Cellbrite says their devices also can extract, “existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags.” It can also extract your highly incriminating ringtones. (?????)

A check of the company website shows how quick and easy it would be to copy and paste.... and dont think u can NOT surrender your phone to the police...
http://www.cellebrite.com/ufed-support-center/tutorials.html

And they support a whole shit fuck ton load of phone models... and other brand u never think of....
http://www.cellebrite.com/ufed-support-center/ufed-supported-phones.html
There is an 99% chance your phone is supported :D
And if you are using APPLE there is a 100% chance :rolleyes:

Interestingly there is no mention of NOKIA 3210 , Ericsson T10/18/28, Sony phones.... or PH 388/688.....

[Johnston]

Gentlemen, now is a good time to renounce the USB/Firewire/BT

http://www.cellebrite.com/mobile-products/ume-36pro-universal-memory-exchanger.html

Cellebrite's UME-36Pro, Universal Memory Exchanger, is a professional, stand-alone phone memory transfer and backup solution that transfers all forms of content, including pictures, videos, ringtones, SMS, as well as phonebook contact data between a wide range of mobile phones, smart phones and PDAs.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CELLEBRITE-UME-36-Mobile-Phone-Memory-Exchange-Unit-/230610341888?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35b1729000

BUY IT NAO FOR 400!!!!!! (USD)

[Johnston]

I agree

Hence i just keep very simple phones like the $35 Nokia 1616 phone.
Oh my gosh!

Quick check shows they dont support NK 1616

You are safe....

For Now. :D

[digby]

this is so so dangerous man.. but luckily my gf is a computer nerd so don't she know how to use this function

[Johnston]

its not a functi0n, its a piece of equipment and if u buy it, it c0mes with manuals and all that shit. Besides that, the vidEo TUtorials make it seem n0t all that hard to use. . . >>

[rocklee]

lol. im still using nokia phone. dont tink they hv such technology.

[eeemen]

Bro TS, thanks for the heads up!!, cheers ..................

[walle]

use public phone?

[maxpee88]

Well im no up to th standard of the recent bro who poste a coulple of posts... but ... if u gots the time (5 mins)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_device_forensics

And further proof you should NOT be carrying IPhone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears

Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.

The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.


Feel like lining up for IPhone 5 Now???? ;)

http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/
Some good people have an APp that may help to see if your IPhone is bugg :rolleyes:

And most shocking

British researchers on Wednesday revealed that iPhones (and 3G-enabled iPads) keep track of where you go, including timestamps, on a file that is backed up on your computer and shifted onto any new iPhone or iPad you get. Apple hasn't said why the file is created or whether the tracking can be prevented.

This news is HOT from Wednesday 20 April 2011 14.06 BST, gentlemen!!!

How much u wanna bet that until 20 April 2012 Straits Time Digital Lie wont tell u about it???? :eek:



Bro Johnston ... (and all the bros)

I just don't want to say : I TOLD YOU SO...

Now you know why my 2 threads on this similar topic is relevant?

Guys - those who missed out on the post. Go and check this out

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=236937

and that is Part2.. there is a Part3 thread which I started Go and search under my same nickname.

Be safe... and Cheong with a peace of mind. Its better to be save than incur the wrath of your wife/gf/bf/partner. Costs of divorce nowadays are too expensive

[Johnston]

lol. im still using nokia phone. dont tink they hv such technology.
did u take the time to browse that webpage which tells u what m0dels they support. . . Unless u using a decae old NK ph0ne, they support it. N0kia is one of the worlds leading manufacturer and why wouldnt they support. . . >^^

[naturegreen]

I begin to wonder iphone has caused how many couples to break up?

[maxpee88]

did u take the time to browse that webpage which tells u what m0dels they support. . . Unless u using a decae old NK ph0ne, they support it. N0kia is one of the worlds leading manufacturer and why wouldnt they support. . . >^^

Bro Johnston and all the rest of the Bros...

Go and get a GSM900 old model phone la... You know the ericsson brand.

And if you can't ... refer to my posts on other recommended models and where to buy them.

Be safe.. By all means keep your current smartphone.. just don't use it to do your sms to the WL or the FL... Go and get a secondary phone for cheonging and get a low end older model that is not at risk.

[whacky]

I'm using a cheap phone at the moment. But thanks for the post TS. Will keep your words in mind when I eventually get an iPhone.

[Johnston]

Go and get a GSM900 old model phone la... You know the ericsson brand.
.

Ericsson T28 - 888$ phone - still with the "Battery Saving" :D

Oh yes we old timers certainly know the Ericsson brand... until 10 years later still will never buy a Sony Ericcson phone ;)

[Johnston]

But back to the crux of the thread:

1) Is IPhone an "Idiot Phone"

2) is such UFED and other device in singapore already and if so
2a) By LE/MIL
2B) Private Detective

3) CAN I BUY ONE OR TWO NAO!!!!! :D

[Johnston]

Gents, the news is officially STATE SANCTIONED today , its been reported in the Strict Times ....


My my, guess it was too big a news to conceal :cool:

[Gunner999]

Shit! Apple just screwed all their customers!

[smoofdeek]

unfortunately, the average consumer couldn't really care less..

[Gunner999]

unfortunately, the average consumer couldn't really care less..

Guessed you are right, only small portion like us are GREATLY affected! Time to load the program to see what it's recording...and remedy action. Time to boycott Apple.

[unfit]

Wah heng ah...i still have my motorola startac HP and my motorola pager too...:p

I think these 2 are the super safe stuff huh...hee hee:D

[Johnston]

FUCK!!!! Does that included SPF????


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056344-281.html?tag=topStories1


Law enforcement agencies have known since at least last year that an iPhone or iPad surreptitiously records its owner's approximate location, and have used that geolocation data to aid criminal investigations.

Apple has never publicized the undocumented feature buried deep within the software that operates iPhones and iPads, which became the topic of criticism this week after a researcher at a conference in Santa Clara, Calif., described in detail how it works. Apple had acknowledged to Congress last year only that "cell tower and Wi-Fi access point information" is "intermittently" collected and "transmitted to Apple" every 12 hours.


And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free :D

[Cerberus]

FUCK!!!! Does that included SPF????


http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056344-281.html?tag=topStories1


Law enforcement agencies have known since at least last year that an iPhone or iPad surreptitiously records its owner's approximate location, and have used that geolocation data to aid criminal investigations.



I remember there was a case whereby this iphone thief was caught when the SPF used this special function.
Another reason not to upgrade to iphone.

[TommyPingPong]

If you want to eat outside, just prepare 2 plan B incase of being caught by OC or CO or commander in chief.

You can off your data from your iPhone in case your wife installed Apple me without you knowing!

Check this for iPhone samsters if you are not aware of this...
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/

Even you login to sbf, its possible to track you from which loc, what data you sent. I believed SBF is not encrpyted!

At the end of day, you must see who is tracking you. If gov wanted to track, there is not where to hide even with a simple nokia 1212. To disappear, just throw all digital devices away and hide in a mountain :)

Those findings are done by COMPUTER SCIENTISTS and I believe those data are not so easily accessed by lay person liked us.

As mentioned earlier, want to eat outside, use precaution and a plan B or C incase gotten caught :D

[DrDoom]

Luckily I still dun own any of these smart phones.

[arsenal_84]

i could say even android users would have such issues, not discounting RIM as well, i do know my phone collects grps data anomalously even with no apps running.
somehow i believe nokia outdated symbian os should be relatively safe...
in the meantime, just have to wait for the rest of the phone companies to reply cnet queries.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056657-281.html

[TravelStarID]

any smartphone with grps function will have this problems.
it all depend on whether the manufacturer want to tap on this or not.
In this case, apple is using this function to it own advantage by secretly collecting the users data to gain an upper hand on it competitors without leting us know.

that is why i have switched over to a normal phone so that my wife or girlfriends cannot know my present and past location.


sometime high tech things may not be good for us if you know what i mean..

[Johnston]

You can off your data from your iPhone in case your wife installed Apple me without you knowing!



My friend.... the Iphone comes with the tracking shit when you update to OS 4. :D So when you upgraded your Iphone OS , it already installed without you knowing :rolleyes:

And its surprising how many people dont know how their phone works... your phone doesnt need to have Gps to be able to track you.... look up cell phone on wiki for some explanations.

Is anyone even looking at my links? I am exploring two issues:
A) Apple Iphones now come with free tracker from APPLE
B) There are devices on the market which can copy everything from your phone

[xployd]

unless you're a mas selamat's hidden sidekick, im quite sure its nothin to be worried about. i think its just data being compiled for some next gen iOS functions (which will more likely than not, advance the location/mapping services that'll help us more on a daily basis).

So im just sayin if u dont want to be tracked because of watever clandestine ops you're doing, dont carry a smartphone in the first place if paranoia like these eat u up. mass hysteria doesnt help i think :confused:

[cuven123]

unless you're a mas selamat's hidden sidekick, im quite sure its nothin to be worried about. i think its just data being compiled for some next gen iOS functions (which will more likely than not, advance the location/mapping services that'll help us more on a daily basis).

So im just sayin if u dont want to be tracked because of watever clandestine ops you're doing, dont carry a smartphone in the first place if paranoia like these eat u up. mass hysteria doesnt help i think :confused:

So its ok for you if they know where you went to and wat you surf on the net ?:eek: :confused:

[Ninja_Assassin]

FUCK!!!! Does that included SPF????

ditto :D

From wat I know is PID/SPF, ISD/MHA, EEMD/MINDEF all having been using similar technology for several years liao....... usually the lag time between state and commercial use is about 5 years so I would confidently say they would have been using these since 2006. :mad:

[Ninja_Assassin]

So its ok for you if they know where you went to and wat you surf on the net ?:eek: :confused:

My friend currently working in IDA was previously from the MHA...... he told me many years ago they had an exercise/operartion where they "invaded" all the computers in Singapore that were connected to the internet and made exact copies of the contents to be scrutinised by the intel analysts.

Apparently this kind of operation still occurs on a scheduled basis. :mad:

[Johnston]

In this case, apple is using this function to it own advantage by secretly collecting the users data to gain an upper hand on it competitors without leting us know.
.

I cant understand how knowing WAYN :D would assist apple in any way :eek:

[maxpee88]

My SBF bros,

As with Bro Johnston's advice... you should consider the following even if you have a second "non-smartphone".

If you are cheonging, LEAVE your Smartphone behind some where else.
Don't be ignorant to think that if you have OFF your Data Roaming, OFF your cellular Data, OFF your LOCATION services.. you are safe... the smartphone still transmits / receives signals because it needs to maintain the cellular signal strength wherever you are... What the paper published is only the tip of the iceberg of known tracking methods for cell phones.. There are just as many other ways to TRACK you and your smartphones and these may not necessary mean using GPS related apps.

[maxpee88]

Ericsson T28 - 888$ phone - still with the "Battery Saving" :D

Oh yes we old timers certainly know the Ericsson brand... until 10 years later still will never buy a Sony Ericcson phone ;)


LOL !!!! I had that model too... I now have a older Ericsson PH388 model too (do you remember that model?)

Very good... at least you still have the notion of maintaining your 'OpSec'

[Recast]

TS, u r wasting your efforts, most chongsters dont give a damned. i personally had seen many 20+ to 40+yo checking their Iphone while they browse banana leg for the ang pai WLs.

thet y i refuse to change my cell phone despite boss making noise about unable to contact me over the weekend. i was a nokia 8210 user then change to nokia 6100(not sure). Both phones still in working condition, kept in my drawer. Current cell phone is a samsung c160 i brought for $80 in 7-11 in 2008.

low tech is the best.:p

[buttlovingguy]

My friend currently working in IDA was previously from the MHA...... he told me many years ago they had an exercise/operartion where they "invaded" all the computers in Singapore that were connected to the internet and made exact copies of the contents to be scrutinised by the intel analysts.

Apparently this kind of operation still occurs on a scheduled basis. :mad:

possible meh? they can steal some of your sensitive info but copy the whole harddisk of everyone??

so MHA has all the nude photos of your gfs/wives lor? :D

[unfit]

LOL !!!! I had that model too... I now have a older Ericsson PH388 model too (do you remember that model?)

Very good... at least you still have the notion of maintaining your 'OpSec'
PH 388 issit the one for the Singtel PCN network one bro?

[Johnston]

TS, u r wasting your efforts,


thet y i refuse to change my cell phone despite boss making noise about unable to contact me over the weekend. i was a nokia 8210 user then change to nokia 6100(not sure).

And they shall be presented with the truth, yet not accept it because the masses need the Farmvilles and Pokers. :rolleyes:

Oh well i suppose i tried.

DId u buy the 8210 back when it was Teh Hawtness???? i remember using a 6610 :o

Oh well perhaps some may think back and remember when evidence from their Iphone is used in a divorce case.... :eek:

Disclaimer: I dont hate Apple, but its what Apple does to their produce and users that's so hatable :p

[Ninja_Assassin]

possible meh? they can steal some of your sensitive info but copy the whole harddisk of everyone??

so MHA has all the nude photos of your gfs/wives lor? :D

The software doesn't know what is sensitive info or what is porn so it just downloads everything and the intel analysts will go through it. :D

[bradpitt968]

Technological advancement is inevitable.

It will not end. So adopt the best policy .... get another phone.

[Recast]

DId u buy the 8210 back when it was Teh Hawtness???? i remember using a 6610 :o


sorry, what is Teh Hawtness? nokia 8210 the first hp i brought in 2000. still remember from M1, i think in ngee ann city. use it for very long, till the year they change gst to 5% when i brought the nokia 6 hundred series. hold that till i brought the simple samsung.

maybe i am a low tech guy, i dont own i ipod, i still have my trusty panasonic discman. haha...:p