Are our SG gals too pamerped??

[LeMans]

Hi All,

I was pondering for the past week that r our SG gals too overly pampered...
For my case, i felt so.. as I will share some shortpersonal experience. Anyway, this is not any sex or FR-related topic... so my apologies to all fellow samsters.

For my past 3 years, I worked hard n become a M&A manager n was involved with several short-term relationship after I ended a 2 year plus marathorn relationship with 1 of my cheating ex-gf (now a school IT trainer in a Secondary school in the East, happily married last year to a fucking credit card fat-asshole manager)... ok enough of my past... Well... fast forward: I was introdued to quite a number of pretty SYTs mainly from 18 to 25 by some of my gd kakis n sisters after I broke up...

Talking on the 1st date with this gal, (let's name her Vicky).... This gal was quite pretty, 23 years old (in 2007).... after the end of the date, i suggested to send her home from Centre-Point.... then she agreed.... next thing, i was supposed to head to the taxi stand.... then Vicky asked me what r we doing @ the taxi stand... I told her that we taking a cab to send her home... n next thing she replied me that she thought I was driving (I didn't told her I did drive??) Thus, after that date, whenever I tried to date her out... she just give me many excuses of busy.... n there goes my 1st SYT intro by my kaki...

Down to my 2nd SYT (name called Emily), this SYT was 21 (in 2007)... she was an easy catch n no doubt, I spare minimum effort to capture her in less than 6 weeks (erm... uncle liao... so cannot as gung-ho as those young 16 or 17 teenagers to be super ON in romance).... Little did I know that after we enter into this relationship... she was like treating me like an ATM.... 1st shopping trip.... she managed to get a Coach handbag, ard $450, but of course... she also did repay me in another form (a gd weekend of sex)... that was not the $$$$$ factor... but my nightmare was just the beginning... slowly during the 2 months relationship, she can easily just ask me keep buying either branded stuff for her or her friends, saying birthday reason.... n that short 2 months... cost me a total $6k.... wahz... these days SYTs really know how to spend uncle's $$$$...... LOL...

Then came the 3rd SYT (let's call her Amy), this SYT was 24 (in 2008), she was at 1st glance, nothing to shout abt... but 1 thing attracted me was her innocence.... n she can cook damn well.... so no complains... but the nightmare came only when after we together for 3 months, then she started popping up the Car factor question..... always comparing me n her colleagues' bfs who own car @ 25 or 26... driving BMWs or AUDIs...... well... Not say I can't afford all this luxury cars... but my job nature requires me to travel almost 70% of my time....even now I only managed to go back for 3 rounds of ICTs only out of this past 8 years after I ORD.... so after all this quarreling... we broke up.....

Then for the bulk of 2009, I was posted to NY for almost 9 months... n last Nov, I was finally convinced to buy a car by my buddies (due to the SG gals materialistic car factor ideaism)... N I got myself a BMW 335i (nothing to shout abt)..... Well.... last Dec X'mas.... after I got my car for a month, I rang up the 1st SYT, Vicky, n invited her for an evening car-spinning... n she immediately just agreed.....So we met up @ her house n we head towards Changi Village..... When we reached Changi Village.... I told her to get off the car, giving excuses that I need her to see the rear of my car for me to my reversing.... But actually, I did the crude n ungentlemen way of zooming off her n left her along @ Changi Village.... n not long later.... I text her an sms... telling her that it serves as a retribution for being too materialistic, bitch.....

Down to last Saturday nite, I was @ Jalan Besar having supper with my Kakis... I saw my 3rd SYT, Amy, I went up to say hello to her... she was damn arrogrant n ignored my greetings to her... so I LPPL n walk back to my table n continue eating with my kaki... then 1 of my kaki suggested to me to get back @ her.... By driving my car right in front of her when she is supposed to leave..... n then play a gentleman by offering her a ride home... n thus do the same old trick by leaving her in the middle of the expressway..... As we were going to finish our supper, n also Amy was abt to finish her supper with her friends... i quickly go n collect my car n drive to the shop to wait for her to come out of the restaurant...n unwind my window n ask her whether she wanna get a free ride from me?? I thought she will keep her arrogrant LJ CB face n ignore me agian... But to my surprise... she replied ok.... Along the trip to her place... i was intending to execute my move of alighting her in the middle of the expressway..... little did I know that I gotta put over the road shoulder as she was giving my small head a gentle grip on it..... shit this slut...... she knew my weak-point... n not longer later... she gave me a BJ right in my car n allow me to CIM as I told her I don't wanna dirty my new car..... after that, I sent her home.... she offered me to stay over-nite, which I initially wanted to agree to her invitation... but I restraint myself as I want to maintain my value since now I started to own a nice car..... n thus no point being so desparate to fall into a SG gal trap....
N this past week, Amy had been either calling me up for dinner or smsing me sweet little gd nite sms (which she won't do at all in the past)... yet... I will kindly reject her date saying busy.... or reply her just a short gd nite.... LOL... but wait till this coming weekend... N I may be coming up with a gd paln to screw the hell out of this materialitic SG gal.....

Well... after my 3 short encounters... any brudders her any comment?? Pls feel free to do so...

[nosealedfate]

When we reached Changi Village.... I told her to get off the car, giving excuses that I need her to see the rear of my car for me to my reversing.... But actually, I did the crude n ungentlemen way of zooming off her n left her along @ Changi Village.... n not long later.... I text her an sms... telling her that it serves as a retribution for being too materialistic, bitch.....

Well done! I like that.

Some would say that the girls here do not know where their position and status in the world.

Some would say that it's the Singapore's system that made the people as such.


There are so many angles...

[phantomboyz]

I can only say that not all the sg gals are materialistic. Usually what i understand bout local girl mindsetting, she could mark ur financial ability on her first glance at the way u groom up urself. This happened to me when i dated my ex from NY Poly in 2002. I was juz bought my CBR 1000 then.Stupid me wanted to show off during our first date,proudly told her that i bought it in cash,somemore bring her to have dinner at Hyatt Hotel. She acted quite innocent that day,so end up i sent her home. Nightmare only begin after our 2nd date. I managed to bring her my bungalow ( of coz not mine, but i was staying with my parents that time ) , that was our first sex. Hell song,coz she juz 17 leh dude. Thought can pakai her,but then she damanding me to bring her to makan at cosy restaurants whenever we go out.Somemore whenever i withdraw money at ATM,she sure wld stick with me closely. I dumbed her after she told me that her ex-bf wooing her back. Then came this next gal also end up be my ex gf. She was stockist manager for some health product. She had fancy to tour Orchard area in the middle of the nite on my bike. Though later we did slept together quite frequent,but she never ask me to buy anything for her,instead she would buy for us whenever we go out for lunch/dinner. Suprisingly her taste is juz have a quick bite at neighbourhood food court and company her parents at NTUC club ( also in 2002 ). We end up broke up after one day i expressed my feelings to her that i feel uncomfortable when everytime she was the one who footed the bills whenver we had meals or shopping.
So i guess,that was ur luck ba.next time try to wear simple and non branded attires during ur first meeting,from there u able to guess whether that gal is materialistic or simply humble type. If she is,she wld juz borchap u later whenever u call. atleast save ur pocket.

[ddog]

Way too pampered. The current girl I'm out with only wants to eat at expensive restaurants. To top that, she herself is penniless but expects me to pay for her everything, including her dresses and overmidnight fares. Spent like 12k or more in a few months on goods electronics, etc on her.

And right now I'm telling her to save a bit keep telling her I don't have that much anymore. She still persist with this lifestyle. Right now she's pissed at me for picking at the things we spent tonite, I'm really pissed right now too. Pissed at me for talking about money. Fine...

I think sg gals like these should be thrown in the garbage can.

[HCKing]

but sg guys love to pamper them leh. hw ah?:p

[edgar_ee]

most sg girls are materialistic in the sense that they expect the guy to pay for them if they are officially going out on a date. that is y i feel that girls will always go for older guys since older guys have the financial power. i realise it is quite hard to find a gf who is the same age, especially if you are schooling and she is already in the workforce. to sum it up, like what my ex classmate told me, local girls are not being materialistic, they are being realistic. -.-

[phantomboyz]

Last time i used to make friend with some tomboys.Of coz different people,different timing lah. Juz purely friendship,no hanky panky one. Even they always said.only guys shld buy drinks for gals,coz that shows how gentleman he is.

[joew2005]

Yes,they r .

[simple2kee]

Amy had been either calling me up for dinner or smsing me sweet little gd nite sms (which she won't do at all in the past)... yet... I will kindly reject her date saying busy.... or reply her just a short gd nite.... LOL... but wait till this coming weekend... N I may be coming up with a gd plan to screw the hell out of this materialitic SG gal.....


TS, well done! they deserved it. but not all r materialitic. looking forward to hear more of ur next move. :)

[Lsy84]

Bros, well I hate to say this, but majority of Singapore girls are like this. (Esp the young ones...they think that money is everything.) In comparison, the older and more matured girls aren't like this. (That's why I prefer older women than younger ones).

Well Bro LeMans, you might also want to consider looking across the causeway to look for the right girl, as I heard that Malaysian Girls are indeed better than our made in singapore local girls in this area. :)

[Sensory Sniper]

Totally agree with you bro. They're really too down right pampered. Think their CB made of gold.... but then again. There are a rare minority.

[Tanoto]

well bro

let me relate my current experience with a gal i;

met this girl last year april 09 and went steady. she is from our next door neighbour and has became a PR for the last 9yrs staying in spore.

initially , she was sweet and very considerate about my spending. since she is living in a rented apt , i suggested to her moving into my apartment ( Big Mistake ). she move in in sept 09 which hell started.

from day 1 we started our r/s and moved into my apt, i have only gotton these from her;
1 ) 01 x dinner treat ( my birthday )
2 ) 01 x peanut butter
3 ) 01 x wallet ( xmas gift )

whereas from my expenses;
1 ) past 10 months daily dinner and meals at expensive restuarant.
2 ) all living expenses in my house including drinks, food , PUB,everything.
3 ) 03 x burberry bags
4 ) 01 x Gucci bag
5 ) 01 x new ladies golf set & shoe

the fact is even she stays in my house , she will never replenish any drinks / food. She would just buy her own and not for our consumption.
she claims to be a simple girl but fancy luxury items at every instant we are in orchard. Does not want to even take a 5min ride on my company van but rather to sit in my BMW.
Even when she goes back to her hometown , gifts and transport expenses expect me to pay.

is it just sporean girl or PR included in this discussion?

is it that girl is not just materialistics but selfish and self centred and thinking that a guy must be a carrot head when they got into a R/S ?

are we guys to blame for making those girls behave in this way ? coz i know of some of my GF Ex-BF who is a carrot head and even some of my friends who is.

your opinion please

[Cheonging101]

but sg guys love to pamper them leh. hw ah?:p

That's why we need more people like bro TS. :D

[jayson]

Bros,

Just my 2 cents worth, I think that as man we should always take time to know the target first. Some gals are just mend for screws and some are mend for keep. I have a couple of gfs in s'pore and overseas where I am working, all boils down to how you know her and how you approached her.

I believed that the ladies has the right to choose a better and wealthier guy, to provide and look after them. This is what they call 'security'. Which I am fine with.

If they are out for money, I would take it as a challenge to bed them at the lowest possible cost. It is a way to show my superiority. ie. spent 1.5k on her make sure I screw her at least 10 times same cost as geylang 150cat. If you want to break up at least got R.O.I.

My past fling was such, I was an idiot and spent 6k on gifts not including food, in 2 weeks on a girl, end up beded her only 8 times... when we break off I suffer huge losses thus I always make it a point that I must screw first talk later....

If they are mend to keep, I would never buy expensive things or show off to her my own wealth and be myself.

[Orgasmic]

the most bastard thing I did to a bitch was to park my vehicle at the ulu dark secluded carpark at the seletar reservior, the one with a tower..

and I asked her to alight as she was so arrogant when she talked. get her to bj and she say i treat her no good and blah blah.. this is after i treat her dinner at a posh resturant worth S$200+ for 2 pax. Then started to talk about going shopping want me buy branded for her at Orchard and not wasting time in a dark carpark

Bloody hell made me angry so I get her to alight and call up another fb to meet up. After 5 minutes on the phone, I drove out of the dark carpark towards the little road leading to the main road ( main road also very ulu )

halfway out i saw her walking angrily to the main road and i simply ZOOMED away into the main road, ignoring her.

What a bitch

[armpitfetish]

this is an interesting topic...

let me share my case... i agree that most SG girls are spoilt, pampered and they thought they are very high class also, but its the same case as a some vain foreign ladies (am dating a msian girl currently)

when i was jobless for 6 months, i had to eat humble pie and try to make her happy as much as i could by forking out my savings to buy her decent meals and movies... but often during this period, she would find the excuse like she's busy with these and that, a lot of interesting activities to fill her week, sometimes, even a simple msn conversation cannot last more than 10 mins... btw we have been dating for 2 yrs.

Now that i got a job wif a rather OK income, her busy schedule magically disappeared into thin air and i can see her pattern liao.... she start to suggest for holiday overseas (on the pretext of spending time with me), buy a house....asking me to accompany her everyday. Its total 360 degrees change (better then colgate total toothpaste). KNN, i really agree wif what bros advised earlier... dun show off ure financial status, for my case i would rather act like a poor humble dude now....

Then u really know who is money face who is not. hmmph!

[hermit1313]

i totally agree with both hands down... sg gals too materialistics and too pampered.... always say guy have to be this nice and so on and so forth... end of day, u have no car, no good pay... they find all sorts of excuse to leave u... sad life we leaving rite?

[Tits & Nipples]

the most bastard thing I did to a bitch was to park my vehicle at the ulu dark secluded carpark at the seletar reservior, the one with a tower..

and I asked her to alight as she was so arrogant when she talked. get her to bj and she say i treat her no good and blah blah.. this is after i treat her dinner at a posh resturant worth S$200+ for 2 pax. Then started to talk about going shopping want me buy branded for her at Orchard and not wasting time in a dark carpark

Bloody hell made me angry so I get her to alight and call up another fb to meet up. After 5 minutes on the phone, I drove out of the dark carpark towards the little road leading to the main road ( main road also very ulu )

halfway out i saw her walking angrily to the main road and i simply ZOOMED away into the main road, ignoring her.

What a bitch

3 CHEERS for you bro. You should have ask her to fuck off at the 2nd car park instead of the 1st one where the 'rocket' is..... :D

[asspanker]

just my 2 cents. maybe its all depends on each bro's luck. M i lucky then not to have met such girls when i was still single??..

but i believe that the young girls nowadays are more materialistic and arrogant.

[Oldmanliao]

First and foremost, it seems that it is we guys that have created this problem with the girls by indulging in their desires and wants. Girls in Singapore are materialistic and too spoilt due to the family background and peer pressure. Most of these girls who fall into this bracket have shit for brains and cannot carry a conversation to save their lives. I have dated some of them in my younger days and I really cannot believe the amount of crap I have to put up with.I can call all those who want their branded goods and fine dining no better than prostitutes. I mean prostitutes are better, at least hookers provide a service. Thankfully, I met a wonderful woman who is now my wife and have stood by me thru thick and thin and a mother to my wonderful children. By the way I have never driven in singapore!

[jasper]

i have long given up hopes on our local girls. simply too pampered and arrogant. want these want that and will never ever get contented with what they get..

an example... nowadays they dun ask you whether you drive or not?.. its WHAT car you drive?? .. fuck bitch... i think singapore girls can onli fuck and spray our sperms and them.. fuck and fuck off... .. no offence to anyone here.. just my own experiences..

[topcook1]

Is not SG gals are pampered alone.The answer is every sporean are too pampered ..guess that younger generation cant take much hardship, abit of minor things will make complain.

[kurosaki ichigo]

Gold diggers and Gold Dug... it takes 2 to clap hands.

Blame the stupid fool for indulging in the gold digger as well a the gold digger for being one.

Have dated one or two such gold diggers and I couldn't believe the bullshit I took from them when I was in it. I still can't figure out why and I'm all the more glad that I got out of the shithole. Pity the stupid fools who are still being manipulated by them.

I agree with one of the bros.. prostitutes are better because they provide a service! These leeches just take and take and take.

[Xccess]

Well Bro LeMans, you might also want to consider looking across the causeway to look for the right girl, as I heard that Malaysian Girls are indeed better than our made in singapore local girls in this area. :)



Bro, you are right! I had my fair share of relationships with sg girls, I strongly agree with you that majority of them are materialistic or realistic thus adding alot of pressure resulting to alot of unnecessary argument in a relationship.

After I had enough of sg girls I tot to myself why not venture into KL for a change, indeed the opportunity arrives and I went over in 2007, till now I still reside in KL but I do go back sg to visit my good old buddies and parents once awhile. In 2007 I met a girl from KL whom I eventually married in 2008. All I can say she is the most wonderful thing that happened to me in my life. She's pretty, slim, confident yet dislike branded. She can carry herself really well even with non-branded clothes. There was once I bought her a gucci bag and she nagged at me the whole day, had a earful that day...lolx.

She can cook well and washes most of our clothes, I suggested to get a washing machine but she rejected that idea saying hand wash is always better. Don't think I can ever find another girl like her anymore. For those guys out there, just keep your options open. I'm sure oneday you will get a gf/wife that suits you.

Cheers:)

[baby85]

SG gals are pamerped & spolied bcos SG guys pamerped & spoiled them

it takes 2 hand to clap ..

simply to say , if u feel e girl is a bitch , den wat for u guys still wanna shower her with gifts n pamper them with expensive food den to whine n complain ?

simply say NO to her demands & if she throw her temper back , means she oni love u for ur money not for u .. so no point using exp stuffs just to keep her by ur side

but i still can say not ALL SG gals are like tis .. there will still be nice wan , its just luck of u guys nvr met them ..

[Archiearch]

To all the bro's here, I've dated Singaporean, Malaysian, Thai and also one New Zealander (currently single)

And i have to say...the girls that you always see in the picture threads..you know...those partying and kindda looks semi-chio to chio...these are the types that are always looking for a free ride. What I mean a free ride is they want the materialistic stuff in life..and a guy dumb enough to provide it.

I've dated a few chio bu like that.....and never once did I succumb to their request of buying expensive handbags. The only time I ever bought an expensive hand-bag for my gf was the new zealander..she never did ask for anything when we were dating and she was kind and considerate...too bad her family objected if not maybe will get married liow.

I think pretty gals nowadays realise that they can make use of their pretty face to get things in their life..I have no idea about you but i would not want to get married to a girl like that.....that would be like bringing a big liability back to your bed...how many tens of thousand dollars can you afford??

Still..my motto is still "If you want to cheong, go out and cheong, but come back must be good husband and good father"

[cheongsterjon]

an example... nowadays they dun ask you whether you drive or not?.. its WHAT car you drive?? .. fuck bitch... i think singapore girls can onli fuck and spray our sperms and them.. fuck and fuck off... .. no offence to anyone here.. just my own experiences..

Ask her back, what time you free for sex?

[badboyzbleu]

wow! looks like a lot of bro here kena the same shit. me not spare too! but after some time, its like fishing. use your wealth as bait, sometime you loss your bait. but its ok. be alert and learn from mistakes. next time the fish hit, make sure you fight well and get it out of the water and makan them! treat those gals like fish, only go out with them when they are willing to let you makan! of cos, a good car play a part. :P

another suggestion is dont buy those branded stuff to pamper your love ones. i know many bros here will say "WHY NOT!". it will only induce materialistic toxic in those good girls. trust me! i dont buy branded stuff for my wife, she want she get it herself.

[Joris]

Have to agree on this, majority of them are spoilt and materialistic.
Do we really need to have 5Cs or even more?

[SureScore]

I was pondering for the past week that r our SG gals too overly pampered...


Great stuff. Enjoy reading.

[baby85]

Have to agree on this, majority of them are spoilt and materialistic.
Do we really need to have 5Cs or even more?

its 7Cs ...

another 2 would be care & concern lol

[Lsy84]

Bro Xcess! Good for you! I also intend to head across the causeway to look for my potential mate sometime soon! :D


To reply Sis Baby85, I got to say that in today's modern society where everything has to be done fast and quick and with the need of money, sad to say that when it comes to relationship wise, most of the girls aged 18-24 yrs old nowadays can't be depended on. They only look for these in a guy (Cars, Credit Card, Type of housing, Type of job etc.. whatever you can think with reagrds to money and prestige) they will come flocking to you like bees to honey.

Sis, what guys really want from a girl is support, trust and faith in whatever they do and most important, character. Sis, do you really think girls these days are like that? I can tell you that you can find such girls when either they are older or when they are divorced. Which is why most guys find older women more attractive...

I just find it sad, that girls these days take relationships too lightly. :(

[jayson]

Bros,

There are actually a few types of bitches out there... those that are young and immature will demand and ask for items and even question what kinda of car you drive.

There is another type that are smarter and more dangerous. Normally they already did their research, they will lure to you to buy expensive things for them. But as soon as they did their research on another better catch, then it is bye bye to you.

Sway sway kenna 2 of those before. With the younger and less experience bitches loss at bare minimum and got my R.O.I. plus bonus. With the more experience bitch, loss money and feelings, cos they know their game well...

for example,: immature bitches 'i like the LV bag can buy for me for our 1 month anniversary?'

Smart bitches, they wont ask but somehow they will let you know what they like normally expensive stuff and you will stupid stupid buy for them... cos they know how to play the game....

[cheongsterjon]

I see some samsters here posting going across the causeway to look for potential mates which i do agree with alot. I worked before in KL for a short stint and i found out that girls/ladies there are very different from our sg girls(but this is not to say that there aren't materialistic realistic ladies over there). From my encounter with them, they don't ask you to buy this LV and that gucci bag for them, the feeling they give me is the more homely feeling, can-be-wife-type. They are also more independent and work harder for what they want.

[ryaw]

Hey bro,

Well done on your gig on those materialistic girls man....i like that,i agree with most bros as in SG gals are materialistic but like what one bro said,they are also realistic...so we should be realistic ourselves man.....be a gentleman at 1st....spend abit get to fuck them and then break off and find another one at least u get something new and u are still spending money.

In comparison,SG guys are actually quite gentlemen liao leh.The way we behave and the kind of money we would spend on women we are considered not too bad liao....

I am currently living in states and i am dating a ABC,i was very surprised that when it comes to money,these gals will actually pay more than the guys do or they will be very forward and tell u upfront that if u wan to go out for dinner tonite then u got to pay for her bcos she has no money or something like that.I think its quite cool in a sense that they are not so materialistic and to them money is not everything unlike the fuck-up SG gals that we have back home.....

With regards
RYAW

[Sting]

Allow me to share my exprience

I found that not local SG girl but girl who work long enough in SG also had this problem.

Especially those who think they look good.

I had a client who had malaysian staff who I will said not bad looking except some attitude problem. She expect don't need pay me for my service to savage her computer problem as I am supporting her company. She will exploit her beauty and charm to make thing work. From her conversation, understand that she take it as a natural thing that man should work for her free. She even had the cheek to ask me drive her here and there. Buai pie say. I had to buy her style as I need her company business.

She really know how to take advantage.

[Xccess]

Bro Xcess! Good for you! I also intend to head across the causeway to look for my potential mate sometime soon! :D


Thanks bro. There's one more thing I'll like to add in and I'm sure some of you shall the same feelings. Personally I don't go way out to impress a girl like showering her with gifts, flowers etc. I've been through those days when I'm younger, now i'm 35....maybe I'm getting lazy.....lolx

Never rush into relationship, when you least expect things to happen, they just pop up infront of you. Always keep your options open, take all the girls as regular friend and observe their character/behaviour with all the time in your hand. My wife is my best buddy, we do chill out like once a week, wine and dine etc.

Once I had a close buddy who is a girl and my uncle asked me this question "Why aren't the both of you together???" I told him we are only close buddies. He said, she can be a good gf/wife becos inorder to be your close buddy, she have accepted all ur nonsense and vice versa. Very true isn't it???;)


Good luck in your finding, my friend.

[Zecker]

Researchers found women who rated themselves as pretty displayed a war-like streak when fighting battles to get their own way -

BBC News - Pretty women 'anger more easily' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8464990.stm)

Was reading news today and saw this article. Well I kind of agree that most girls in Sg are materialistic but I guess that have to do with our upbringing and society. We want the 5/7Cs because we feel that upon achieving those factors, we are considered successful in life. A bit of over generalisation here but girls feel that they can take the shortcut in life by just leeching off a rich/successful guy.

[alvin36]

Hello TS... is a nice discussion thread started by you. I faced the same problem when I was in my 20s. I was having a earning a decent income, but without car and I'm not good looking and not charming. Therefore always ignored by SYT, and forget about single dates with SYT. After a few years, when approaching 30, I begin to understand this fact. In life, you choose people, people also choose you. I'm sure every guy wish to have a SYT or pretty babe as gf or wife. Same goes to those SYT, they have youth and looks, they have many choice to choose, they sure want a guy with good qualities or 5Cs, or at least handsome and charming.

I got married to a decent looking lady when I was 31, my OC is not as demanding as a typical SYT. she is just a plain office lady.

Now, I'm 38 this year, I can say that in the past 10 years, I have had about 10 FBs, but they are all not pretty, most are single lonely, and waiting for guys to show them love. You see the point ? These ladies when into 30s and still single, is considered "no body want", they will enjoy the feeling of "being wanted" by guys, and therefore very easily can develop into a FB relationship.

Honestly, nowadays, if I really want a SYT, I would just pay, F and forget about it....

As for meeting female friends, I prefer to meet someone not so pretty, because they are easier to bed. I know myself, I do not have the 5Cs to fish a pretty babe, so... better dont waste my time and $ :D

[wingman7]

Bro Xcess,
I'm also a Singaporean staying in KL more than 5 years. Like you, meeting my wife who is a Malaysian, is the best thing happened to me. She is my best buddy and friend.

May be we should meet up one day.

Good luck to all bros looking for the right one. Like bro xcess said, keep your options open :)

[Xgenre]

Well.... last Dec X'mas.... after I got my car for a month, I rang up the 1st SYT, Vicky, n invited her for an evening car-spinning... n she immediately just agreed.....So we met up @ her house n we head towards Changi Village..... When we reached Changi Village.... I told her to get off the car, giving excuses that I need her to see the rear of my car for me to my reversing.... But actually, I did the crude n ungentlemen way of zooming off her n left her along @ Changi Village.... n not long later.... I text her an sms... telling her that it serves as a retribution for being too materialistic, bitch....

Something so small to appease you is sufficient? What's the point of doing this BEFORE you fucked her? She could easily hail a cab home and bad-mouth you forever. Not that you care about her comments. You really never thought of bedding her as a form of revenge? Give her 1 or 2 rounds of super rough sex? Cum in mouth, face, hair all over? Poke her in the arse?

[Xccess]

Bro Xcess,
I'm also a Singaporean staying in KL more than 5 years. Like you, meeting my wife who is a Malaysian, is the best thing happened to me. She is my best buddy and friend.

May be we should meet up one day.


Wahh....we both in the same boat....Lol. Maybe we can chill out someday.



Cheerz

[Lsy84]

Thanks bro. There's one more thing I'll like to add in and I'm sure some of you shall the same feelings. Personally I don't go way out to impress a girl like showering her with gifts, flowers etc. I've been through those days when I'm younger, now i'm 35....maybe I'm getting lazy.....lolx

Never rush into relationship, when you least expect things to happen, they just pop up infront of you. Always keep your options open, take all the girls as regular friend and observe their character/behaviour with all the time in your hand. My wife is my best buddy, we do chill out like once a week, wine and dine etc.

Once I had a close buddy who is a girl and my uncle asked me this question "Why aren't the both of you together???" I told him we are only close buddies. He said, she can be a good gf/wife becos inorder to be your close buddy, she have accepted all ur nonsense and vice versa. Very true isn't it???;)


Good luck in your finding, my friend.





Thanks bro Xccess for your reply! I totally agree with what you said! Bro, sometimes when you want things slow and easy, the other party doesn't like or reciprocate..haizz, this is what makes me so fed up about sg girls these days. You don't when they are true to you or are out to take for a ride. They tend to fool around with you like nobody's business.

Maybe I should share with you bros out there one of past experiences with such people.

I got to know this girl a few years back through a close friend of mine. Lets call her V. Initially we started out as online pals, and we became quite close. Recently we went out together on a proper 1-1 date. After that so-called date, she initially dropped me some hints that she actually liked me.

As a normal guy, of course I would not let this opportunity slip me by lah! :D So I began my messenging to her giving her daily quotations and sayings to brighten up her day.

In the end, she told me that she wasn't interested in me, and wanted us to be just normal phone buddies.

I just felt that she just be more direct to me initially, and told me I just want us to be normal phone buddies, I would have gotten her message clearly...haizz

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Kudos, to the 3 short encounters, 1 giant leap for Singapore Men. Cheers, :)

In short, many of them are P.M.S - Pampered, Materialistic, Spoilt beyond comprehension. :D

[Stud00]

Bro. TS,
i like your style man. leaving her in the middle of no where.
that's what i called, sweet revenge.

my take is, we just have to be ourselves whenever we date, don't have to do things to impress the other party, end of the day, if they love you, they accept your full package.

cheers

[Stud00]

Bros, well I hate to say this, but majority of Singapore girls are like this. (Esp the young ones...they think that money is everything.) In comparison, the older and more matured girls aren't like this. (That's why I prefer older women than younger ones).

Well Bro LeMans, you might also want to consider looking across the causeway to look for the right girl, as I heard that Malaysian Girls are indeed better than our made in singapore local girls in this area. :)


Bro,
i agree with you. Malaysian girls are much better.
Some of them are simple, non materialistic,thoughtful and sincere.
Mine current gf is one now. Love her bits!

My past experiences with SG gals have not be too good. It's true that all gals want security and stability, but there's a vast difference between stability and being materialistic. My ex can never eat in a hawker centre,only restaurants. Don't know why.

I personally think what all men look for in a mate, besides looks is the ability to go through thick and thin with them, support, encourage us when we are down, give us ideas, suggestions and make us better ppl.

Gals that are takers should be classified under "FUCK and Throw" period, because its not worth to waste your money, emotions on such people!

[HCKing]

there's already a thread on our sg gals pattern and behaviour.

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/matters-heart/107365-local-girls.html

got many interesting views and experience shared by bros in the thread. happy reading.:D

[cumfast]

No money no honey...

so sad...

that's why I don't like singapore women...

[baby85]

Bro Xcess! Good for you! I also intend to head across the causeway to look for my potential mate sometime soon! :D


To reply Sis Baby85, I got to say that in today's modern society where everything has to be done fast and quick and with the need of money, sad to say that when it comes to relationship wise, most of the girls aged 18-24 yrs old nowadays can't be depended on. They only look for these in a guy (Cars, Credit Card, Type of housing, Type of job etc.. whatever you can think with reagrds to money and prestige) they will come flocking to you like bees to honey.

Sis, what guys really want from a girl is support, trust and faith in whatever they do and most important, character. Sis, do you really think girls these days are like that? I can tell you that you can find such girls when either they are older or when they are divorced. Which is why most guys find older women more attractive...

I just find it sad, that girls these days take relationships too lightly. :(

i agree most of e girls are pamper like princess but somehow i feel will still have some tat really noe hw to tink .. its just rare ..

[tomvoyeur]

SG women r f**kable but just think twice when marrying them.

Go out of SEA n China bros!! Time to see the world! ;)

[edgar_ee]

like the quote goes,

sg girls are not being materialistic, they are being realistic. no wonder i am starting to only feel lust but not love for girls

[Lsy84]

i agree most of e girls are pamper like princess but somehow i feel will still have some tat really noe hw to tink .. its just rare ..

Well Sis Baby 85, I don't wish to say this, but Rare is almost impossible these days in Singapore. If you talk about, Singapore in the 60s to 80s maybe there is a possibility of the so-called Rare ones you are referring to.

[bonkster]

Hmm...guess i kinda agree with one bro who mentioned that it's not just SG gals who are pampered/materialistic. Overall, i think a lot of us in SG, guys as well, tend to judge other people by the cars they drive, house they own and income they make.

I say this because i seem to meet a fair number of men and women who have the habit of rating a guy with higher regard when he possesses more, material wise.

The most recent is an experience from my ICT a few weeks ago. It was a pretty routine ICT with my company guys since NSF days. Only difference this time is our company CQ who used to be the company's most-hated guy, joined us for his first ICT after deferring for all the previous ICTs since we ORDed.

This CQ came late and was the last to come into the lecture room where the rest of us were waiting. And just like his NSF days, he wasn't apologetic, never bother to say hi or smile to any of us and was still carrying that KL look. So like old times, all of us couldn't give him a damm after booing his grand arrival.

Then came canteen break. As we were walking towards the canteen, a Mercedes AMG drove past us and we found out that it was CQ's car. CQ then became the center of attention. Quite a number of the guys who were complaining about him early, instantly became more receptive towards him and seemed to be kinda impressed by him. That weekend, some guys who would probably continued to bo chap CQ, went KTVing together with him. I remembered thinking to myself, what a difference a car makes?! :rolleyes::p

Reading this thread made me recalled about this ICT experience. I just can't help but wonder that if some NS men in our thirties would change our opinions of another guy because of the car he drives, then isn't it only natural for some SYTs to judge us likewise? :confused:

[Orgasmic]

Hmm...guess i kinda agree with one bro who mentioned that it's not just SG gals who are pampered/materialistic. Overall, i think a lot of us in SG, guys as well, tend to judge other people by the cars they drive, house they own and income they make.


Reading this thread made me recalled about this ICT experience. I just can't help but wonder that if some NS men in our thirties would change our opinions of another guy because of the car he drives, then isn't it only natural for some SYTs to judge us likewise? :confused:

Friend, in this world, the only thing people know you are rich is the type of car you drive and the place you stay. This is the fact and you may not like it, its still a fact.

I used to stay in a ulu HDB estate without a vehicle. My parents werent rich. I worked very hard for a decade, slogging 18 hours a day for 7 days a week. No entertainment no anything. Yes, the only mediacorp artistes I knew were probably Pan Ling Ling and Zoe tay and a little bit of Fann wong. Other than that, I dont know anything about their personal lives or that of other artistes.

Throughout the decade, I have met many materialistic gals. No kidding. They are damn straightforward. Even for guys, they are frank and they will hang around you if you are a big-shot.

Comparing the time when I first came out to work and now, I have amassed a few condos in bukit timah and holland areas, a few commercial factories and a few so-called luxury cars worth $200k and above. The attitude of those associates changed for the better... much better over these years. ITs damn obvious.

This is a real world and in a real world, money talks. If you are just a normal policeman pounding the street wearing an ugly uniform holding a normal sergeant or ASP rank, how much can you earn? People know u earn $4000 a month at most and in SG context, its damn pathetic. Even if you buy an Audi A6 or Cayman to show off, at the end of the day, you are still a... lowly police officer earning a meagre pay & people know that.

My advice to those young men here is to strike out and do business if u have enough savings. IF you work hard 18 hours a day for 5 years straight without wasting time on gals & good cars, you will be earning $20k easily a month once u hit 40 year old because a significant portion will be coming from rentals of your own factories and condos.

[gilagila100]

There's a saying.

"Before you pick up a kitten, look at the tabby"

Same for women, if you really want a good wife look at the mother-in-law.

If she is a good wife, then most likely than not her daughters will be too.

I think most Singaporean families either dun teach the traditional values anymore or too busy to teach their children resulting in such issues.

[Cheonging101]

Then came canteen break. As we were walking towards the canteen, a Mercedes AMG drove past us and we found out that it was CQ's car. CQ then became the center of attention. Quite a number of the guys who were complaining about him early, instantly became more receptive towards him and seemed to be kinda impressed by him. That weekend, some guys who would probably continued to bo chap CQ, went KTVing together with him. I remembered thinking to myself, what a difference a car makes?!

Pui pui pui! I look down on these kinda people! :mad:


Comparing the time when I first came out to work and now, I have amassed a few condos in bukit timah and holland areas, a few commercial factories and a few so-called luxury cars worth $200k and above. The attitude of those associates changed for the better... much better over these years. ITs damn obvious.

Bro, want to go KTV with me or not? :D:p

Anyway, different strokes for different folks, bro.

Some of us, like me, are happy with what we have. I am blessed with friends whose attitude towards me would not change no matter my financial status and a girlfriend (not SG) who would stand by be even if I lost everything tomorrow.

To me, that's happiness enough... even though I still have to work 8-5 everyday. :p

[argas]

There's a saying.

"Before you pick up a kitten, look at the tabby"

Same for women, if you really want a good wife look at the mother-in-law.

If she is a good wife, then most likely than not her daughters will be too.

I think most Singaporean families either dun teach the traditional values anymore or too busy to teach their children resulting in such issues.

Beg to differ, I think it is mainly because of the education the sg girls accept from young, and the mother has less influences on the girls behavior now

[LeMans]

Hi All,

My apologies for posting any reply so late.... Well... Seems like my thread had attracted a fair share of comments n replies....

To some brudders who suggested me to screw the hell out of those materialistc gals n leave them after that..... Well... I had that intention... but when u think logically... it's not worth to screw them.... Coz I had a close friend who did that in the past.... n what happened to him was the SG materialistic bitch cried foul (rape) n threatened my friend for a handsome $20,000 payment as compensation..... So what is the point of doing that.... Morover.... even if that bitch bad-mouth me forever.... so what?? For any logical ppl who can thinks... will know there must be a story behind for me doing such ungentlement act.... n I think that bitch's friends will also judge her differently......

To some brudders who suggested me going across the crossway to find a M'sian gf cum wife.... well... I can say that irregardless of whatever nationality.... there bound to be 1 or 2 black sheep... just that our Sillypore is growing @ a rapid increase rate of black sheep materialistic SG bitches through our Sillypore Lee Legacy education system.... I can share 1 experience that 1 of my cousin who married a Malaysian wife some 20 years ago.... his wife was so fierce that she controlled his every movement n even drove the old folks of my cousin out their house... so imagine... Malaysian gals?? U think all r so kind n caring?? Have a second thought brudders...... n that was 20 years ago... still kampung age in Malaysia hor.....

To a brudder who suggested working hard by setting up n doing your own business... well... I heard that many time since young.... My granny, mum n my late uncle.... always tell me to study hard when I was a kid n get into uni n later secured a gd job.... which will earn more $$$$..... n later women of all types will flock to u like honey..... n it is true.... becoz... this is what we r instilled since young from our parents, right?? Well.... I can be consider very lucky @ some part of my life.... I was given a full sponsorship by my late uncle for uni studies... so no loan to pay-off when I grad, unlike some of my pals n kakis, who gotta pay off loans for some years after they grad before they can fully fulfil their dreams.... Well.... I was lucky to also get a car due to my little achievement in my career.... Plus... I was pure lucky that my late uncle had no kids... thus leaving behind for me a substantial sum to inherit.... thus.... I can say I achieve almost all 5Cs before 30 years old.... Thus.... I only can say that your advice actually give me a sound reminder to become an entrepreneur now.... Well... I will heed your advice n make full use of what I have..... N now I recall.... 1 of our rich man in SG, Mr. Peter XXX.... well.... he was the King of Shares in the 1990s era.... he also had no problem looking for his 2nd marriage when he divoiced his 1st wife back then... thus... $$$$ seems like a magnet towards our life-long happiness.....

Lastly, to fulfil some brudders suggestions: I may carry out my evil thoughts this weekend onwards on my 3rd SYT, Amy, probably taking it slow n easy.... Well... just received an sms from her, asking me whether I m free for a weekend gateway to Bintan.... Wahz.... I thought that is a heaven paradize for our local SG men during the weekend..... how come become her choice of destination?? LOL... Wait for my updates, brudders.... Cheers:=)

[Bangster]

这是社会的错
(Blame it on society)

And of course, their mothers!!!!!

Someone once wrote in SBF that it was the mother of the girl who told her when she was small, "grow up, marry a rich man. Don't be like me, so stupid to marry your father. Look at me now, toiling away with your father. What a suffering life!"

[Bangster]

good thing my wifey not like that....

maybe once in a while will complain and say damn long never go on holidays overseas liao and yada yada yada....but after I told her to get her passport and hop on a bus to JB herself, she keeps quiet.

but because she does not ask me for materialistic things, I tend to want to spend on her whenever a fat pay cheque comes along. I believe we men are like this, the more a person asks of us, the lesser we wanna do it for him/her. This is the irony. I am someone who will work harder for a boss who asks less of me, who will spend more on someone who does not demand materialistic things. I somehow feel these people deserve more and I do not mind the extra effort/cash to be spent on them.

[strikeking73]

Most gals in this world like to be live a better life. Maybe
SG gals demand more cos our living standard. Other countries gals like PRC,phillipinese,viet,thai and etc are money minded too. They married our man and old man cos this man earn much than THEIR man in their country. They will give excuse that our man is good as we dun beat wife, but actually is we got money than their man. Imagine can how many our man and old man hook an Ang Mo. Why it is not so easy than those woman from the countries mention above? I more to believe the words - Money rule The World.

A look nomal type gal can goes against you too!
A pretty gal can demand more from you too!
A guai gal may done "wild thing" behind your back!
A naughty gal may not suit to be a wife!
IS lucky to have a good wife or GF, is also depend how good are you too!

[LeMans]

Well guys... Just a short update...

I had a surpirse lunch just now... My dear 3rd SYT, Amy, popped up @ my office n brought me lunch.... So sweet of her (but deep inside my mind.... I was thinking that if I never own a car.... I doubt she will ever still remember my existence or not..... let alone she popped up n brought me her home-cooked lunch).... Well.... She wored a 1-piece white flora dress with a v-neck cutting... showing her ample clevages....

But there was more than lunch just now... Well... As I was eating my lunch n she was sitting in front of me inside my office room seeing me eating my lunch.... she used her little toes to seduce me.... slowly inching from my lower calf to my groin area under my desk.....well... that automatically caught me by surprise.... n no doubt my little bro was awaken suddenly..... but I tried to stop her n told her that it is not so convenient inside the office, though it was lunch time... n the rest of the office was qutie empty.... but my protest was fruitless as she slowly walk over to my side n use her soft-baby skin hand to rub on my crouch n giving my little bro a further hard-on.... Then I told her.... why not wait for me @ the emergency exit stairways....

Not long later... I met up with her there... n the moment the emergency exit stairway door close up.... she kissed me feriously n forcing her tonuge into mine.... n there we french for a gd 2-3 mins before we disengaged our kiss.... N I told her that I will have her for dessert after lunch.... n she challenge me by telling me.... pls have her for whatever I want... then I told her: Bitch... u ask for it.... n continue my aggression on her..... Following that, I kissed her again n this time.... I squeeze her boobs (a pair of C-cupper) n she let out a soft moan.... n slowly, I unzip her dress n let it slip down her shoulder... what was showing up next was she was in a pair of black thin-fabric lacy-satin bra n a lacy matching G-string (damn it... last time when together, also didn't wear for me to see.... yet now.... wear it n let me strip her naked....)

Well... upon see it.... I didn't spare any time wastage.... n continue my assult on her.... I just push her bra cup down... n suck on her delicious inviting smally pinkish nipples.... n bite on it occassionaly.... n she let out a soft moan when I bite on her nipples.... N as I was busy sucking her nipples.... my left hand was heading southwards to rub her already wet-pussy..... n she was so turned-on that she started to moan more frequently.... n to prevent her volume from travelling against the hollow stairways... I used my right-hand to cover her mouth.......

With my sucking of her boobs n rubbing of her pussy... not long later... her body start to be tensed up.... n a huge load of juice was flowing out of her pussy... n she had her 1st orgasm..... Well.... she seems quite horny now.... but then time was not on my side.... as I look @ my watch n I only had 15 more mins for my lunch to end... thus I took the express train by pulling her G-string down to her knee level.... n then bend her down in a stand-doggie position n from behind... I pushed my hard-rod into her well-lubricated cunt n pump her in that position for a gd 5 mins..... n long later... her pussy muscle started to contract.... n before I know... she had her 2nd orgasm..... n her pussy muscle started to squeeze my little bro inside..... n after afew more pumps.... I knew I couldn't tk any longer n told her I was abt to cum n shoot where?? She told me to shoot inside her pussy as she is safe this week... well... I intended to do so... but I was afraid whether she is telling me the truth or not.... so I suggest how abt CIM.... n she agreed to it immediately.... n I immediately pull out my hard rod without any warning.... n turn her over n force my hard rod into her mouth n grab her head n jerk forward till I unload all my soldiers into her mouth.... n to my surprise... she drank up all my soldiers n clean me up by licking any semens leftover on my dick..... Wow... I was totally surprise by her actions as in the past... no matter how I persuade her... she couldn't do so.... Now... she is like a big time slut... trying to seduce me to come back to her.... Haha.... It really prove that $$$$$ can make the world move..... n I think this weekend... I will have a fulfilling trip to Bintan.....

Well guys... this is a short update... Hope to have more updates soon if I can have more encounter with her before the Bintan trip this weekend.....

Cheers:=)

[baby85]

Well Sis Baby 85, I don't wish to say this, but Rare is almost impossible these days in Singapore. If you talk about, Singapore in the 60s to 80s maybe there is a possibility of the so-called Rare ones you are referring to.

Bro , its almost impossible but its not totally extinct rite ?

i still know some who is those perfect gf/wife tat if i'm a guy i also sure marry back home type .. its really damn rare for now , cos out of 1 million i guess u can oni find 1 tat willing to suffer with u ..

i agree ur point tat older girls or some girls who gone thro some hardship will understand e plight & have a serious r/s

i agree on most of SG gals are like tis .. not ALL ya :D

[Bangster]

Screw saving up for rainy days, I AM GOING TO BUY A BMW 335i !!!!

[jacky43]

Personally, after married for 10yrs i sort of think otherwise, women used to say outside women r sweeter than them. I disagreed! Outsider women i'm talking about sex workers here, same all always agree even if its wrong. Spouse, almost all the time pissing me off, i say 1 she said 2.

However, spouse is 1that will finally walked thru shits with me, mine? Sometimes, when $ is low, she gave me some to spend. WLs @BL, i think even if i say 5time/per mth i have session with her, also no $ no talk.

Finally, as a man i stay not necessary outside women r sweeter.

[LeMans]

Screw saving up for rainy days, I AM GOING TO BUY A BMW 335i !!!!

Well... Bro Bangster.... i thought u r married already.... So no point getting a BMW 335i.... if u r willing to spare that kind of cash... then buy a lexus or BMW 530i instead since u r a family man... Coz my BMW 335i is a 2-door cabriolet.... n I m more into the sporty type personality.... thus.... u must depends on what matches your personality n also the type of women u r afer for....

If u r looking for office xiao mei mei... then a normal Subaru WRX or Mazda RX8 will do.... But if u r going after young OLs ard 21 to 30... then of course... my BMW 335i can come in handy.... but actually even a Lexus RS300 is gd enough..... But then again... if u r into those high-end OLs like Bankers or Lawyers or Accountants.... then got to re-group your ammo n opt for a more expensive luxury car like the BMW M5 or M6 series.... Audi Q7 or R8.... Else the Mercedes SLK series.... n probably to Prosche etc.......

Thus... my advice to all bros.... if u r looking for a wife... then on the 1st date... don't drive out.... tk the public transport.... see how they react.... n if they wanna continue the date with u on subsequent occassions.... then the gal is in a serious relationship with u (based on my past experience, especially those relationship when I was serving my NS, purely love story, then money love).....

Lastly, a car the most can last 10 years.... but invest on a gd house can double your value in 10 years down the road..... thus my next goal is to own a luxury unit in Sentosa Cove if possible.... n I shall see what kind of gals will flock to me by that time.... Cheers:=)

[SupremeD]

Well... after my 3 short encounters... any brudders her any comment?? Pls feel free to do so...

This can be an advert for BMW! Just joking.
Then again, this story inspires many of us to work hard and earn our moola!

[misled]

Actually there are many Singaporean girls who arent like that at all. I just want a man who turns me on and finds me hot, doesn't treat me like an object and can be faithful to me. I've alot of single girl friends like that too. We are all financially independent so we really don't need a man for his money, he just needs to be financially stable enough to hold his own. Maybe the girls you are talking about are ah lians? most of them seem to think that a man's main purpose is that of a financial provider.

[SGJimmy]

Im just driving a honda fit now, i will work harder and hope I can chg to budget playboy car like toyota MRS or Honda S2000 :D
Older thn i drive BMW or Merc if I can

[bonkster]

Friend, in this world, the only thing people know you are rich is the type of car you drive and the place you stay. This is the fact and you may not like it, its still a fact.

Bro Orgasmic, actually i'm quite indifferent about the popular culture of perceiving someone based on the car and home he owns.

In fact, many years back when i was still schooling, before i could afford my own set of wheels, whenever my dad or brothers went overseas, i would drive their cars back to my hostel and jio the chiobus of my hall out for dinner, supper and grocery shopping. So i guess, i was also guilty of trying to impress babes with cars. And probably worse...hehe...with cars that are not even my own. :p

What i was really trying to say in my previous post was just that i happened to observe many SG guys who rate another guy more favourably simply because the guy drives a cooler ride. But when fellow SG gals judge us guys by whether we have cars or what kind of cars we drive, we tend to label them as overly pampered/materialistic.

Come think of it, aren't both genders doing practically the same thing? It would appear to me that materialism is more an aspect of human nature and norms in a society like SG, instead on a trait exclusive to SG gals. Just my two cents.

Pui pui pui! I look down on these kinda people! :mad:

Haha bro Cheong, some people would pui him, while others would bend over for him. Like u said, different strokes for different folks. :D

For me, i'm not looking to become like CQ, nor am i planning to bumm around and settle for a dead-end job.

Just hope that we can all strike a happy balance in life and be true to ourselves. :)

[archrival9]

what about cherryQQ? :D sure hook china mei mei?:p

[BscBMD997]

Well guys... Just a short update...

I had a surpirse lunch just now... My dear 3rd SYT, Amy, popped up @ my office n brought me lunch.... So sweet of her (but deep inside my mind.... I was thinking that if I never own a car.... I doubt she will ever still remember my existence or not..... let alone she popped up n brought me her home-cooked lunch).... Well.... She wored a 1-piece white flora dress with a v-neck cutting... showing her ample clevages....

But there was more than lunch just now... Well... As I was eating my lunch n she was sitting in front of me inside my office room seeing me eating my lunch.... she used her little toes to seduce me.... slowly inching from my lower calf to my groin area under my desk.....well... that automatically caught me by surprise.... n no doubt my little bro was awaken suddenly..... but I tried to stop her n told her that it is not so convenient inside the office, though it was lunch time... n the rest of the office was qutie empty.... but my protest was fruitless as she slowly walk over to my side n use her soft-baby skin hand to rub on my crouch n giving my little bro a further hard-on.... Then I told her.... why not wait for me @ the emergency exit stairways....

Not long later... I met up with her there... n the moment the emergency exit stairway door close up.... she kissed me feriously n forcing her tonuge into mine.... n there we french for a gd 2-3 mins before we disengaged our kiss.... N I told her that I will have her for dessert after lunch.... n she challenge me by telling me.... pls have her for whatever I want... then I told her: Bitch... u ask for it.... n continue my aggression on her..... Following that, I kissed her again n this time.... I squeeze her boobs (a pair of C-cupper) n she let out a soft moan.... n slowly, I unzip her dress n let it slip down her shoulder... what was showing up next was she was in a pair of black thin-fabric lacy-satin bra n a lacy matching G-string (damn it... last time when together, also didn't wear for me to see.... yet now.... wear it n let me strip her naked....)

Well... upon see it.... I didn't spare any time wastage.... n continue my assult on her.... I just push her bra cup down... n suck on her delicious inviting smally pinkish nipples.... n bite on it occassionaly.... n she let out a soft moan when I bite on her nipples.... N as I was busy sucking her nipples.... my left hand was heading southwards to rub her already wet-pussy..... n she was so turned-on that she started to moan more frequently.... n to prevent her volume from travelling against the hollow stairways... I used my right-hand to cover her mouth.......

With my sucking of her boobs n rubbing of her pussy... not long later... her body start to be tensed up.... n a huge load of juice was flowing out of her pussy... n she had her 1st orgasm..... Well.... she seems quite horny now.... but then time was not on my side.... as I look @ my watch n I only had 15 more mins for my lunch to end... thus I took the express train by pulling her G-string down to her knee level.... n then bend her down in a stand-doggie position n from behind... I pushed my hard-rod into her well-lubricated cunt n pump her in that position for a gd 5 mins..... n long later... her pussy muscle started to contract.... n before I know... she had her 2nd orgasm..... n her pussy muscle started to squeeze my little bro inside..... n after afew more pumps.... I knew I couldn't tk any longer n told her I was abt to cum n shoot where?? She told me to shoot inside her pussy as she is safe this week... well... I intended to do so... but I was afraid whether she is telling me the truth or not.... so I suggest how abt CIM.... n she agreed to it immediately.... n I immediately pull out my hard rod without any warning.... n turn her over n force my hard rod into her mouth n grab her head n jerk forward till I unload all my soldiers into her mouth.... n to my surprise... she drank up all my soldiers n clean me up by licking any semens leftover on my dick..... Wow... I was totally surprise by her actions as in the past... no matter how I persuade her... she couldn't do so.... Now... she is like a big time slut... trying to seduce me to come back to her.... Haha.... It really prove that $$$$$ can make the world move..... n I think this weekend... I will have a fulfilling trip to Bintan.....

Well guys... this is a short update... Hope to have more updates soon if I can have more encounter with her before the Bintan trip this weekend.....

Cheers:=)

o_O

sure or not!? i drive a BM525 but never have such thing cumming my way leh.

[Tanoto]

Hi guys

i totally agreed with the guys comment.

i had a BMW M5 and it is definately a pot of honey waiting for bees to come.
chicks wants to know who is the owner and wanna a spin in my ride.

but the truth is ;
i only drive my GF ard.
and i only give rides to male hornets who are car frantics.

and i personally hated those young female bank R/S manager who wanna throw themselves .

hahahha

[lame-ah-pek]

Hmmm...

I have unfortunately never had girls drool over me because of my cars.

I think that's just the icing on the cake.

Then again I am not handsome nor a savvy dresser nor a sweet talker; which I think are the more important assets in getting the girls.

[venussg]

We are all financially independent so we really don't need a man for his money, he just needs to be financially stable enough to hold his own.

Financially independent girl is more materialized, and most of them always want to marry a rich man, as she need a man for luxuries life instead a normal life :p; and a financially dependent girl can marry a normal man and lead to a normal happier life :D just my observation

[venussg]

这是社会的错
(Blame it on society)

And of course, their mothers!!!!!

Someone once wrote in SBF that it was the mother of the girl who told her when she was small, "grow up, marry a rich man. Don't be like me, so stupid to marry your father. Look at me now, toiling away with your father. What a suffering life!"

You can see the similar dialogs in the TV :D:D

[LeMans]

o_O

sure or not!? i drive a BM525 but never have such thing cumming my way leh.

Bro BscBMD997,

Well... Since u driving a BMW525i, why not make full use of what u have?? It is how use make full use of your resources, as what alot of investment seminars alwyas teach: Make your money work harder for u, since u work hard for money.... thus, since we are all in the same BMW family, then my advice is to drive to some clubs/pubs n then offer to buy some drinks n offer to send them home... that way sure score point (but of course look for those single n not attached, else u r inviting trouble if u going after a gal who is attached).......

Anyway, my kaki always advice me: If a gal who looks for a car from a bf, she will only be your gf.... But if a gal who looks for a house from a bf.... she will be your wife... haha... it may sound lame... but it sounds logical.....

[LeMans]

Hi guys

i totally agreed with the guys comment.

i had a BMW M5 and it is definately a pot of honey waiting for bees to come.
chicks wants to know who is the owner and wanna a spin in my ride.

but the truth is ;
i only drive my GF ard.
and i only give rides to male hornets who are car frantics.

and i personally hated those young female bank R/S manager who wanna throw themselves .

hahahha

Bro,

Nice one.... Totally 100% agree with what u say here.... Anyway, I know that money do rules in modern day relationship.... If u have tonnes of $$$$$ to splash... gals will come flocking to you like honey.... n our current gf (too bad, I m still single n available) will feel the threat with our success due to the bees surrounding us... thus, this make our local SG gf (if I have 1 now).... to buck up n maintain their standard of beauty.....

Lastly, when we, SG men, r single n well-off.... the gf will be fearful of us..... But the day we signed on the dotted line @ the ROM.... there goes our freedom n our wealth... becoz 50% will belong to her once we signed that signature.... An expensive life-long commitment......

[peterdrill69]

Hmm...guess i kinda agree with one bro who mentioned that it's not just SG gals who are pampered/materialistic. Overall, i think a lot of us in SG, guys as well, tend to judge other people by the cars they drive, house they own and income they make.

I say this because i seem to meet a fair number of men and women who have the habit of rating a guy with higher regard when he possesses more, material wise.

The most recent is an experience from my ICT a few weeks ago. It was a pretty routine ICT with my company guys since NSF days. Only difference this time is our company CQ who used to be the company's most-hated guy, joined us for his first ICT after deferring for all the previous ICTs since we ORDed.

This CQ came late and was the last to come into the lecture room where the rest of us were waiting. And just like his NSF days, he wasn't apologetic, never bother to say hi or smile to any of us and was still carrying that KL look. So like old times, all of us couldn't give him a damm after booing his grand arrival.

Then came canteen break. As we were walking towards the canteen, a Mercedes AMG drove past us and we found out that it was CQ's car. CQ then became the center of attention. Quite a number of the guys who were complaining about him early, instantly became more receptive towards him and seemed to be kinda impressed by him. That weekend, some guys who would probably continued to bo chap CQ, went KTVing together with him. I remembered thinking to myself, what a difference a car makes?! :rolleyes::p

Reading this thread made me recalled about this ICT experience. I just can't help but wonder that if some NS men in our thirties would change our opinions of another guy because of the car he drives, then isn't it only natural for some SYTs to judge us likewise? :confused:

Ha.. haaa.. that is what happened to me too... my camp people also like that. It is LIFE.

[Addam]

The thing with some gals is they expect quite a lot, but are unable to have much of anything to offer.... materialistic is ok, but not having any contents in the brain or virtues in character is not much of a permanent attraction.

[mike-tan]

how come deviate so much from the topic and talk about cars:confused:
my OC is very pampered...last time before married she sometimes pop up at my workplace to pass me food or will cook some simple meals at home.....now married liao 180 degrees changes:(
although we got maid, but normally i will still do simple things like tidying my bed, make coffee, throw rubbish etc myself......but my OC is so pampered that the only thing she do herself nowadays is maybe to bath and sleep with me.....:p
how many gals here can declare that they do housechores and cooking for their husband?
although i do not know how to cook, but i'm the one doing all the housechores before we got maid....

[maxsteel]

haix i totally agree with all the bros here hahaha sg girls are too spoiled... but some of them act innocent at first then later try to suck u dry die liao... most importantly screw the hell out of them! hhahahaahha

[19001126868]

Sg girl really think they are princess, everything we must pamper them.

plus, once going together as a pair.
her money is her money.
my money is our money.

No breast, no butt, no look,

If you sign the paper, you are gone case.

[baby85]

how come deviate so much from the topic and talk about cars:confused:
my OC is very pampered...last time before married she sometimes pop up at my workplace to pass me food or will cook some simple meals at home.....now married liao 180 degrees changes:(
although we got maid, but normally i will still do simple things like tidying my bed, make coffee, throw rubbish etc myself......but my OC is so pampered that the only thing she do herself nowadays is maybe to bath and sleep with me.....:p
how many gals here can declare that they do housechores and cooking for their husband?
although i do not know how to cook, but i'm the one doing all the housechores before we got maid....

IMO .. if e wife is a full time hsewife , den yes wife should do all e housechores but however e husband gonna do his part to help too ..

else wats e difference of wife & maid den ? other den wife fark with u too ?

example , wen e husband come back , don throw all e clothes ard expecting wife to pick up n wash , why not just put in nicely in e washing machine n save e wife's trouble =)

for cooking , if e husband will come back for e wife's food , i guess e wife would be gladly cook for him everyday ..

example , e wife cook daily but oni eat herself alone in e house , why would she wanna do so much just to eat herself? might rather tabao outside n eat herself , but if e husband would come back often to eat together , she would be happy to cook everyday ..

once in a while of urgent matters like last min meeting all tis would be fine but not all e time ..

tings take 2 hands to clap , its how guys treat e girls den e outcome would be ..

[Cheonging101]

IMO .. if e wife is a full time hsewife , den yes wife should do all e housechores but however e husband gonna do his part to help too ..

else wats e difference of wife & maid den ? other den wife fark with u too ?

Hmm... not what I heard and saw so far. I think NS was what really screwed everything up for SG guys. We were taught to wash clothes (manually!), sweeping (using fucked-up brooms and dirty mops!), scrubbing (with newspapers and no detergent!), cook (with fucking solid fuel instead of gas!) while most of our SG gals go on with their blessed little lives learning how (or worse, PAY people) to do their French manicure.

So... in this context, what's the difference between a husband & a maid? Other than that the husband pays and gives you sexual satisfaction?


example , wen e husband come back , don throw all e clothes ard expecting wife to pick up n wash , why not just put in nicely in e washing machine n save e wife's trouble =)

Be thankful the wife doesn't do that instead...


example , e wife cook daily but oni eat herself alone in e house , why would she wanna do so much just to eat herself? might rather tabao outside n eat herself , but if e husband would come back often to eat together , she would be happy to cook everyday ..

I'm sure some wives can cook a decent meal, but with Home Econs being "Optional" nowadays, I wouldn't bet on it...


tings take 2 hands to clap , its how guys treat e girls den e outcome would be ..

Good thing is that it only takes 1 hand to slap! :D

[risque]

If they are, it can only be our fault.

[84gunner]

But if a gal who looks for a house from a bf.... she will be your wife... haha... it may sound lame... but it sounds logical.....

That can be lagi worse!

No luxury condo or landed property, no hiu u!!! A car, is after all, more affordable than a luxury condo or landed property!

I have posted enuf of Sg gals' materialism, u guys can go find my postings. And I'm glad, till 2day, no regrets, dont even bother 2 look back, I quit SG several years already, n enjoying everyday more than when I was in SG !!!

In fact, I'd say, mebbe I bonk 2 much, nowadays, even if the gals come to me, if I dun tink she'll be a quality bonk (both physically n intellectually), then dun waste my time n energy! Eg, a gal can be physically attractive, but if she cant communicate well enough wif me, ie, too self-centered, immature, full of herself or tink damn highly of herself, I dun wanna waste my time on this type of gals as well. There are more physically attractive WLs than I can physically bonk, and cheaper too !

[84gunner]

IMO .. if e wife is a full time hsewife , den yes wife should do all e housechores but however e husband gonna do his part to help too ..

else wats e difference of wife & maid den ? other den wife fark with u too ?

example , wen e husband come back , don throw all e clothes ard expecting wife to pick up n wash , why not just put in nicely in e washing machine n save e wife's trouble =)

for cooking , if e husband will come back for e wife's food , i guess e wife would be gladly cook for him everyday ..

example , e wife cook daily but oni eat herself alone in e house , why would she wanna do so much just to eat herself? might rather tabao outside n eat herself , but if e husband would come back often to eat together , she would be happy to cook everyday ..

once in a while of urgent matters like last min meeting all tis would be fine but not all e time ..

tings take 2 hands to clap , its how guys treat e girls den e outcome would be ..

Such virtuous mentality n moral values in SG gals is really rare nowadays. When the guy treats his gf / wife well, the SG woman says it's his duty, or worse still, who ask him to like her, love her, court her. When the guy asks the gal to treat him a little better, or be more gentle or virtuous, most of the responses from SG gals will be, "we are in 21st century, men & women are equal! Why should females do the cooking? wanna cook, wanna do laundry, get the maid to do it! I'm not a maid! etc etc etc"

U can say I'm traditional, I even admit, I'm very MCP. But I feel, and many guys also feel similarly, that cooking, doing some housework, brings out the feminine "taste" of the female. There's a Chinese old saying, translated to English, "to catch a man's heart, is to catch from his stomach (gastric)". I strongly believe in the old Chinese sayings n idioms, these are passed down over more than 5000 years, they are experienced n observed for so long!

Just like doing some technical repairs at home, shows the man is technically inclined naturally. My ex's (when I was in SG) Mum actually told me, she was unhappy wif her ex (b4 me), tat he, a guy, dun even know how to replace a light bulb / flourescent lamp at home? Don't even feel like a man at all !

[ch18]

Sigh....

Their theory is alway 'What's mine is always mine, What's yours is also mine!'.........

Too late for me liao, signed on the fxxking dotted line, that means 50% gone even if we seperate......

Sigh again.... Mistake made 10 years ago....

[Davey Skills]

We are Singapore, whatever we don't have or don't have enough we import. Football players, table tennis players, coffeshop runners, construction workers, girlfriends and wives. Singapore gals want to be pampered, ask them to look in the mirror first. A lot of competition from overseas these days.

[cum_in]

8 out of 10 girls are like that... In the past I met different type of girls. All try to suck my money dry but lucky I hang I never buy expensive stuff for them, I only buy cheap stuff then they piss off with me and said nasty thing about me but I don't care la.

I got a car and bike. I only use car when necessary, so when meeting girls I always drive bike to test them. Knn all hiam my bike... the only 1 never hiam is my current gf. After being with her for so long she's not materialistic and never suck my $ @ all. Lucky to have her :D

[Davey Skills]

Good on you bro... if only more Singapore men were like you.
Leave the pampered ones out to dry, once they near their expiration date hopefully they'll realise they need an attitude adjustment.

8 out of 10 girls are like that... In the past I met different type of girls. All try to suck my money dry but lucky I hang I never buy expensive stuff for them, I only buy cheap stuff then they piss off with me and said nasty thing about me but I don't care la.

I got a car and bike. I only use car when necessary, so when meeting girls I always drive bike to test them. Knn all hiam my bike... the only 1 never hiam is my current gf. After being with her for so long she's not materialistic and never suck my $ @ all. Lucky to have her :D

[baby85]

Bro Cheonging101 - LOL ok i understand it , but still there are some who will do e part as gf or wife still .. cos tats oni on e point of my views , afterall wat i encounter is such kind of ppl .. =) even e wife cannot cook but can be learn if she wants =) btw 1 hand cannot be clap at all unless u clapping with ur own leg .. lol

Bro 84gunner - fm wat i feel , being together both side have to treat each other well , but as a guy marry e girl over , isnt its his duty to love n care for her ? but being as wife also have her duty to do her part too la , not only just 1 sided but both side .. =)

[HCKing]

i think the best solution is to pamper those that deserved to be pampered only n to leave those underserving ones alone.

[84gunner]

double post

[84gunner]

Bro 84gunner - fm wat i feel , being together both side have to treat each other well , but as a guy marry e girl over , isnt its his duty to love n care for her ? but being as wife also have her duty to do her part too la , not only just 1 sided but both side .. =)


yes, totally agree.

That's what I meant, it's the guys' duty 2 love n take care of his gf / wife. But sad 2 say, as posted by most other bros here, the gals simply take the guys 4 granted!

Not only from material point of view, in fact, I dun view material gifts as a way of showing love, care n concern. It's from everyday gestures, like the wife cook, the husband helps with washing the dishes, etc. It's like, everyone puts in effort for the family, for the home! Nature built male & female differently, everyone has their part / role in nature n the society. Females are supposed 2 be born 2 be better domestically, while the guys are born to be better technically, eg, handyman. Females have a naturally poorer sense of direction, guys are better in directions. If we dun have auto-transmission cars, I can bet many females won't be able to get their driving license today! Even with auto-transmission cars, many, if not most, females still have problems parking their cars properly, ie, not as good as the guys. Females are better in terms of minor details, guys are usually careless in details. These are all nature. Try 2 hard to prove against it, one is only trying 2 go against nature. And, look at the details of SG's society today. On the outside, it's telling everyone it's one of the best in the world. But if u take a deeper look, n understanding more details, u will find that it's more of an empty shell / advertisement only!

I'd encountered gals, my friends' wives, say they dunno how 2 cook, but can learn. After being married 4 several years, still dun bother 2 learn. As I expected. B4 they got married, I told them, why dun u start learning now? Their reply was, after married then start 2 learn, then will really feel the difference between married life vs single life mah. So I told them, u dun start learning now, how would u gurantee tat u'll learn after getting married? They juz keep quiet. Then, as I expected. And I would say, these are the more polite gals. For those more rude ones, they'll simply retort bluntly, "it's the 21st century now, or b4 year 2000, they'll say, it's the modern age now, men & women are equal, why must women cook?"

But den, again, once sign on the dotted line in SG, that's it!

That's why I said SG's Laws is like coffin nail! The stakes are just too high in SG! In fact, it's the men that will feel insecure! Look at my signature too.

[Evil69live]

Not only SG gals are pampered but based on my personal experience even "ang moh gals" from France are also pampered.

My colleague who is a 25 years old "ang moh gal" from France. She claimed that she don't spend $$$ on expensive handbags, shoes or clothings but yet her behaviour (when it comes to work, dine etc) is as though she's a princess. she's very impatient and also have this mentality that guys should give in to her in whatever ways. she easily lost her cool and throw tantrums when things not going smoothly for her, insists and demand solutions ASAP. As an "ang moh gal" she speaks frankly and can be brutally rude and brunt to guys but when guys retaliate back to her frankly and bluntly she pull a long face. during lunch she does not like sitting under the air-con and use her bag to reserve the seat which is away from the air-con outlet. but when the other colleague took her seat, she got angry and insist on seating there. she can simply change to another seat as a respect for her elder colleagues but she did not but pull long face again.

so ... you see, so long gals who think that they've got the looks and have a golden pussy they can be arrogant and pampered.

Thai gals at least even though can be materialistic but they at least knows the basic respect of people.

[LeMans]

Hi all brudders,

I m finally back from my short weekend trip... Just a quick update from my weekend gateway.....

The whole weekend was just simply pure sex n hardcore bonking.... Till my dick is swollen... LOL... I can't believe that Amy was so wild... last time together was like a routine sex time-table (usual sex position: missionary, 69 & doggy).... now change since last time back 3 years ago... Well... We had sex in almost every where we go.... along the beach..... at a quiet street corner in the middle of the nite.... Wow... I can't believe she took the initiative n allow me to do anal..... NB.... $ince having a nice car do help in not only fishing back a slut... but more open to new sex position....

Well... Over the weekend was also a time to self-reflect my relationship with her.... as she was behaving as if she was my gf n so coincidence.... webump into one of her old schoolmate...n intro as her bf.... n thus I just play along.... n was duly reward when we went back into our resort love nest....

Anyway, I m now contemplating whether wanna accept her back?? Because.... I m afraid that she is only with me due to my current success.... n not through my own merits of winning her heart (though @ 1st, my intention was to fool her feelings, but now... seems that my heart turn soft....) Well...... After reading so much of comments, I m also quite doubtful abt having her but yet feel like enjoying the love feeling again?? So confused?? Why do we have to make such decison in life??

I hope any brudders can give me some gd advice.... Thanks in advance:=)

[ahboi123]

Sorry to say this, but because you got a bmw, then she straight away let you bonk raw. Think twice. What is a consequence. I know its hard to leave her when your heart turn soft but, you wanna get someone like this for a life-time partner meh :(

Hope you can think of a good solution! Bless you!

[superk92]

This girl I'm out with, I dont want to mention her name, but she's featured here. Irritating. Only eat restaurant and expensive foods daily, on my $. While shes penniless. Expects you to help her, be her servant, or she'll 'slap' you. Calls you up in the middle of the night, expects you to help her with her stuffs, otherwise, she'll 'slap' you.

You tell her, you dont have enough money, save a bit. Yet she still spend your money on expensive food then expects to take a past midnight cab everytime. Then after so many months, and I've counted 8k later, she wont even let you touch her. Saying you're not her priority now, her life and career is her priority. Heartless... truly heartless.

[Xgenre]

I hope any brudders can give me some gd advice.... Thanks in advance:=)

Create a fake crisis? Say suddenly cashflow tight and need a loan of $10k from her. Don't know when you can return her. If she loves you because of money, she will run away from you due to money-related reasons too.

[hermit1313]

Hey bro,

Well done on your gig on those materialistic girls man....i like that,i agree with most bros as in SG gals are materialistic but like what one bro said,they are also realistic...so we should be realistic ourselves man.....be a gentleman at 1st....spend abit get to fuck them and then break off and find another one at least u get something new and u are still spending money.

In comparison,SG guys are actually quite gentlemen liao leh.The way we behave and the kind of money we would spend on women we are considered not too bad liao....

I am currently living in states and i am dating a ABC,i was very surprised that when it comes to money,these gals will actually pay more than the guys do or they will be very forward and tell u upfront that if u wan to go out for dinner tonite then u got to pay for her bcos she has no money or something like that.I think its quite cool in a sense that they are not so materialistic and to them money is not everything unlike the fuck-up SG gals that we have back home.....

With regards
RYAW

agree with u... was back in states studying and dated a few wif no sucessful attempts but they gals there insist in splitting the bill or straight forward that they can't pay for the dinner and such... cool culture over there and i dun feel the need tat i have to pay evrything for the gals i am dating... sg gals mostly expect u to pay everything for at least the first few dates... well 1 cents worth of contribution....

[jj_jj]

Sorry to say this, but because you got a bmw, then she straight away let you bonk raw. Think twice. What is a consequence. I know its hard to leave her when your heart turn soft but, you wanna get someone like this for a life-time partner meh :(

Hope you can think of a good solution! Bless you!

totally agree with bro ahboi123, dont let a moment of weakness (a lot of men actually, of cos myself included) blur you from the initial objective. this type sure run when going gets tough.

dick hard, heart must also be "hard". anyway, just my opinion. cheers!

[hermit1313]

We are Singapore, whatever we don't have or don't have enough we import. Football players, table tennis players, coffeshop runners, construction workers, girlfriends and wives. Singapore gals want to be pampered, ask them to look in the mirror first. A lot of competition from overseas these days.

why do u think our gahmen is encouraging more foreign talents? lots of gals cannot make it here tat why lar...

[Cheonging101]

Sorry to say this, but because you got a bmw, then she straight away let you bonk raw. Think twice. What is a consequence. I know its hard to leave her when your heart turn soft but, you wanna get someone like this for a life-time partner meh

Hope you can think of a good solution! Bless you!

Totally agreed. This girl is worse than those FLs/WLs who KC bros to con their money... :rolleyes:

Bro LeMans, if another guy comes over with a Maserati, I'll bet you that she'd be giving him head within 5 mins after saying hello.

If you want to know if she changed attitude or she is only into your money, you could try befriending her relatives and buddies to see if you could dig out some more dirt on her past relationships between your on-off affair with her.

[RUNROAD]

when a gal choose to date a guy by the car he drives, does she loves the guy or the car? :rolleyes:

[pyscho77]

IMHO,

We may need not be too generalizing about meting out opinions on the general attitudes of our SG Gals (we even have a website dedicted to them sgGirls.com :: Oriental and Beautiful (http://www.sggirls.com) ;D )

I strongly believe there are more good ones around than the bad ones we meet - like two sides of a coin. So when we meet the not-so-good ones who are too overtly materialistic -- suay lor. But I suppose we have bros here who can help to teach them a "valuable lesson" after getting into their cars within 5 mins hehehehehe :D - know what I mean?

There are also SG FL who are also hardworking to try to achieve something better in their lives here. There are also some who want to make it to a better state than they are now. It's just our way of life that encourages competitiveness and advancement -- hence the outcome, good and bad.

Probably the same as in other countries, have monetary benefits lavished onto a gal and she moves into your apartment gradually. Some are genuine and not in it for the money, some will move on and fark the next 10 "SG or local Carrot" while you are out of town at the earliest opportunity.

Bottomline: if we can drive our cars, if nice cars, and those pampered gals come along and want a free ride, hey, why not? If they make use of you, recipocrate in return :D or we can walk away -- would be nice to drive a porsche open-top alongside a SG Gal, pick her up and f!@k the sh!t out of her in the car in KPE with BBBJ, COF, COB, CIM, Doggie and what else? :D

Maybe some bros can share some stories here on some encounters with "The SG Material Gal"?

[marquin]

interesting topic.

living in australia, i see this so clearly when i visit sg. it is expected i guess when car is consider a luxury item, house/condos are so expensive and competition and saving face is always on people's mind. while in australia it hasn't come to the point where those things are that high up on their agenda. you can see alot of ang mo girls going out will god knows what type of guys. while we know good looking girls usually will look for someone who can provide them with all the wonderful thing in the world.

lucky that in this society, the local asian girls has not grown up with a singaporean mindset, that money is everything and the famous 5c's etc etc.

it is a little upsetting to see nice gorgeous tall slim etc etc singaporean girls with ugly looking chubby guys driving a merc or bmw or whatever... its just so so obvious and rather a shame... then again maybe GOD is fair afterall. you can't have everything in life.

well such as life....

[tomvoyeur]

I agree SG women r generally more spoilt than the rest of the world; but the irony is they are spoilt by SG men!!!!

That's the problem with SG - complain SG govt, complain SG women but the time comes to do something, they just shrugged and say "Bobian"!!

Just stop voting for PAP and stop dating/marrying SG women! :rolleyes:

[Achelouz]

I tink if you don like materialistic girls, don appear so wu lui or gv ppl the impression dat u r very well to do lor. When these girls nt impressed, they wont approach, n u can focused on the better, more humble females, if u can find lah, haha.

Now dat u drive a BMW, it will be even harder to tell if girls are genuine for ur heart or wealth.

For me personally, I kind of use my gut feeling on girls I meet. If she hits me as even the slightest bit materialistic, I will never consider her under my can-be-married list. :o

[Shazam]

That's the problem with SG - complain SG govt, complain SG women but the time comes to do something, they just shrugged and say "Bobian"!!

Just stop voting for PAP and stop dating/marrying SG women! :rolleyes:

That is what my foreign friend told me too. He is bewildered by Sporean's strange behaviour.

His country voted out the government even though the country was doing well economically, government got only a few screw ups and his countrymen standard of living and quality of living is higher than Singaporean.

He told me his citizens are more matured than Singaporean politically as they do not believe in the theory "If it is not broken, why change it?"

He says by the time you change it when it is broken , it will be too late as thousands or millions would have suffered by then.

His country does not believe the same government should remain in power for too long. Breeds complacency.

[Cheonging101]

He says by the time you change it when it is broken , it will be too late as thousands or millions would have suffered by then.

Precisely! And the fuck thing is that, if there are no shifts of power now and then, should the dominating party fail, the other party taking over would have zero experience because they were never given a chance to steer the ship! :eek:

Singapore has NO Plan B.:eek: I'm getting out of here as soon as I can.:D

[ahboi123]

Create a fake crisis? Say suddenly cashflow tight and need a loan of $10k from her. Don't know when you can return her. If she loves you because of money, she will run away from you due to money-related reasons too.

Kinda agree with this method. Although it might be abit troublesome, the time & effort is worth for choosing a lifetime partner right?

However, you got to be a perfect actor in this case. Most of the girl you mentioned, are actualy quite smart in this, so they real just play along. Therefore, you must be very very pro. Tanhan and you might find whether she is the one for ya. :)

[walle]

fully agreed with TS:)

[song881881]

totally agree with all the bros here , singapore gals are all too pampered .

haiz ...i married one . branded goods to cosmetic surgery ...eveything from

expensive to luxury .. u name it they want it . of course there are good ones

, but given a chance they can kc a guy , i think they will .

[asdfghjkl]

better look carefully first, i got reminded of this thread to marry.

[Joanna]

I do sympathize with what some guys encounter with SG gers but i do have some female friends who are very nice and down to earth who are still single out there but the thing is they are not pretty or young or slim... so what happen to them is the guys judge them by their looks and figures as well...
Few samsters who i know just go for SYT even thou they are in their late 30s or some in their 40s and to be honest why would a SYT fall for you???
And man have ego problem they like to show off they wealth at the very beginning of the r/s so if u think u wanna look for a sincere gf who is not after money don't spend lavishly in the beginning and complain after that and always say no to expensive gifts request unless it's something u wanna give her yourself. Human beings will take things for granted easily.

Man complain about woman and woman complain about man but to be honest the quality of both genders have dropped..

[AllmanloveCB]

it all narrows down to what kinda girl u are looking for? u want those slutty, happening good fuck type = money. if your looking for some nerd or ugly girls = no need much money. Abit of this and that, and they are deeply in love with u. Most of us guys in singapore at the age of 20 to 30 or prolly 20 to 40 are fighting really hard for our future and saving up. So instead of spending on such bitches and creams. i rather spend on FL's. I have a FL fren, what she said was so true. I don't take guy's money, i earn em.

And u don't have to act all poor and all. Just be yrself. u don't expect a girl to date u when u wear a singlet and a torn pants on your first date with her isn't it? If u have a BMW, just drive it. If u own a Rolex, Just wear it. It's easy to tell if she's after your money or not. Unless u look at andy lau, Prolly the girls out there will date u even if u are dirt poor, they will spend on u. So end of the day, i feel it's how u handle the situation. I love to spend on myself, i love to buy branded and expensive stuff too. i don't give a shit to how people look at u, cause sadly to say. Singaporeans judge people. Let's say today, u are selling your property. A sweaty property agent that just walk all the way in to your bungalow due to him not owning a car, has to align at the bustop outside. and another property agent that parks his BMW or MERC or LEXUS outside your place. Who will u let to sell? See what im saying? Just be yrself. Don't get all affected by whatever others says or so. Im wearing a rolex thats much more expensive then my boss. In the beginning he was rather affected too. but end of the day life still goes on. Who cares? Live your life the way u want it to be. U live only once :)

[BlackerKnighter]

Man complain about woman and woman complain about man but to be honest the quality of both genders have dropped..

Aiyahhh.....really complain nation hor..

Sometimes people really never look at themselves in the mirror lor. Want to KPKB oso take a good deep look at urself first mah. Works for both men and women I suppose..

Too much hypocrisy and conceit.......Too little substance..

Want to say pampered, shallow and materialistic I think it is the common trait of people with this stage of social development and this kind of political history. The values and behavior only reflect wat people subject to and told to think like mah.

So blame who? PAPpa smurf arh?

[bonkster]

Few samsters who i know just go for SYT even thou they are in their late 30s or some in their 40s and to be honest why would a SYT fall for you???

Think u hit my sore spot. Although i'm not young anymore but i'm still after SYTs most of the time. :o

As to why would a SYT fall for me? Guess i'm a hopeful believer that besides gold-digging, some of them really have daddy issues. :p:D

[asspanker]

Such virtuous mentality n moral values in SG gals is really rare nowadays. When the guy treats his gf / wife well, the SG woman says it's his duty, or worse still, who ask him to like her, love her, court her. When the guy asks the gal to treat him a little better, or be more gentle or virtuous, most of the responses from SG gals will be, "we are in 21st century, men & women are equal! Why should females do the cooking? wanna cook, wanna do laundry, get the maid to do it! I'm not a maid! etc etc etc"

U can say I'm traditional, I even admit, I'm very MCP. But I feel, and many guys also feel similarly, that cooking, doing some housework, brings out the feminine "taste" of the female. There's a Chinese old saying, translated to English, "to catch a man's heart, is to catch from his stomach (gastric)". I strongly believe in the old Chinese sayings n idioms, these are passed down over more than 5000 years, they are experienced n observed for so long!

Just like doing some technical repairs at home, shows the man is technically inclined naturally. My ex's (when I was in SG) Mum actually told me, she was unhappy wif her ex (b4 me), tat he, a guy, dun even know how to replace a light bulb / flourescent lamp at home? Don't even feel like a man at all !

tink im quite lucky cos my wife will cook for me ( but i do my part by washing the cookery and dishes after eating la) and my whole family like once in a week. Cos currently staying with my parents, waiting for the damn hse to be done..

She is a sg girl but i can say is her parents brought her up well. Fillial, always care for family, and most important of all.. not so materialistic..

She rather have 1000 x $10 dresses, shoes, bags then to have just 1 x $10,000 gucci or LV bag.. where to find? and is not smoke me 1.. :D

[bloopz]

hmm.. sorry to dig this out after so long.. bored today.. :P

i think it all depends on the upbringing of the individual. isn't it unfair to pass any conclusive judgement on anyone based on their gender or nationality to say that they are too pampered? :rolleyes:

my personal take is that, as families are shrinking, most people (especially younger generation, irregardless of gender) nowadays are so pampered by their parents/family that they believe everything should go according to their wishes.

and.. it seems that people also tend to take for granted about wat they get from their partners/love ones or dont express their appreciation as much.. :( oh wells, this is prob my own prob for not being able to recognize the "fine prints".. and.. maybe i'm a sucker for recognition.. :p

[Killien]

Given the general outrage at the idea that women actually want something from you apart from your obviously fabulous company, i'm just wondering how many of you would actually pursue (not settle for but passionately PURSUE) a frumpy old bag dressed in burlap sacks that swears to sex AFTER marriage?

[cmelater]

Just to share my story.

I am an average executive. If want to classify, i'm only a lousy mid management level staff. I dun earn a bucket of notes every month, but its sufficient for me to upkeep my coupe and house + extra savings.

A while ago, I got to know this gal. Saw her fb photo. She was ok looking. Thought might as well arrange for a day to meet her. First date, I thought overall appearance ok and character not too bad. So, continue pak tor with her.

But, it was the beginning of my nitemare...... By the 2nd week of pak tor, she asked me buy clothes for her. Total damage 200. For someone I didn't know, it was out of proportion. Few months later, she asked me buy a pda phone. Not those free phone when you sign plan. Damage was in the hundreds.

Somemore, cannot fuck and no touch at all. wtf.... she not clean at all. Already kena f by a number of guys before me. Play all the emotional hostage games.

V day also coerce me in buying her an expensive dinner + other treats.

After that, realised she still with her ex. knnccb. Literally put up my white flag. She played a few more stunts until I sian liao. What for so serious.

Everytime got excuse to get me to give her a ride. But, I never really know her as a person. kns. pui.... still can act so holy at the end. To think that every month I burnt part of my salary on this farking whore.

[cmelater]

You tell her, you dont have enough money, save a bit. Yet she still spend your money on expensive food then expects to take a past midnight cab everytime. Then after so many months, and I've counted 8k later, she wont even let you touch her. Saying you're not her priority now, her life and career is her priority. Heartless... truly heartless.

I understand the shitty feeling you are having man.... Its blardy frustrating. What to do... either ditch the bitch or continue. I rather ditch and move on. Women like that dun deserve anything.

They think they pretty. Next day, another prettier gal appears. Life very fair. Gal can be pretty today, but a prettier displaces her tomorrow. Its the personality that sells, not just the looks. Girls dun realise that.

For the guy, its a one way game. You only play to lose. Spend money on girl was never an investment cos' the girl never obligated to reciprocate. She only reciprocate if she song. If you buay song, can only suck thumb. :( Play sure die. Dun play, still have some money left for foreign wife.

Even if you manage to up her eventually, you also dunno when she will leave. Girls talk about "feeling" one. Once they no "feeling", they still leave, regardless of how much you did and invested. Good hor? Its a scam.... a conspiracy to defeat mankind. sigh....

Now got foreign competitors, these local whores claim these foreign imports are cheats or conmen. Kettle calling the pot black..... :cool: So, can we say that the local products are "holy" or "holely"?

[Red_Wine]

Hi All,

I was pondering for the past week that r our SG gals too overly pampered...
For my case, i felt so.. as I will share some shortpersonal experience. Anyway, this is not any sex or FR-related topic... so my apologies to all fellow samsters.

For my past 3 years, I worked hard n become a M&A manager n was involved with several short-term relationship after I ended a 2 year plus marathorn relationship with 1 of my cheating ex-gf (now a school IT trainer in a Secondary school in the East, happily married last year to a fucking credit card fat-asshole manager)... ok enough of my past... Well... fast forward: I was introdued to quite a number of pretty SYTs mainly from 18 to 25 by some of my gd kakis n sisters after I broke up...

Talking on the 1st date with this gal, (let's name her Vicky).... This gal was quite pretty, 23 years old (in 2007).... after the end of the date, i suggested to send her home from Centre-Point.... then she agreed.... next thing, i was supposed to head to the taxi stand.... then Vicky asked me what r we doing @ the taxi stand... I told her that we taking a cab to send her home... n next thing she replied me that she thought I was driving (I didn't told her I did drive??) Thus, after that date, whenever I tried to date her out... she just give me many excuses of busy.... n there goes my 1st SYT intro by my kaki...

Down to my 2nd SYT (name called Emily), this SYT was 21 (in 2007)... she was an easy catch n no doubt, I spare minimum effort to capture her in less than 6 weeks (erm... uncle liao... so cannot as gung-ho as those young 16 or 17 teenagers to be super ON in romance).... Little did I know that after we enter into this relationship... she was like treating me like an ATM.... 1st shopping trip.... she managed to get a Coach handbag, ard $450, but of course... she also did repay me in another form (a gd weekend of sex)... that was not the $$$$$ factor... but my nightmare was just the beginning... slowly during the 2 months relationship, she can easily just ask me keep buying either branded stuff for her or her friends, saying birthday reason.... n that short 2 months... cost me a total $6k.... wahz... these days SYTs really know how to spend uncle's $$$$...... LOL...

Then came the 3rd SYT (let's call her Amy), this SYT was 24 (in 2008), she was at 1st glance, nothing to shout abt... but 1 thing attracted me was her innocence.... n she can cook damn well.... so no complains... but the nightmare came only when after we together for 3 months, then she started popping up the Car factor question..... always comparing me n her colleagues' bfs who own car @ 25 or 26... driving BMWs or AUDIs...... well... Not say I can't afford all this luxury cars... but my job nature requires me to travel almost 70% of my time....even now I only managed to go back for 3 rounds of ICTs only out of this past 8 years after I ORD.... so after all this quarreling... we broke up.....

Then for the bulk of 2009, I was posted to NY for almost 9 months... n last Nov, I was finally convinced to buy a car by my buddies (due to the SG gals materialistic car factor ideaism)... N I got myself a BMW 335i (nothing to shout abt)..... Well.... last Dec X'mas.... after I got my car for a month, I rang up the 1st SYT, Vicky, n invited her for an evening car-spinning... n she immediately just agreed.....So we met up @ her house n we head towards Changi Village..... When we reached Changi Village.... I told her to get off the car, giving excuses that I need her to see the rear of my car for me to my reversing.... But actually, I did the crude n ungentlemen way of zooming off her n left her along @ Changi Village.... n not long later.... I text her an sms... telling her that it serves as a retribution for being too materialistic, bitch.....

Down to last Saturday nite, I was @ Jalan Besar having supper with my Kakis... I saw my 3rd SYT, Amy, I went up to say hello to her... she was damn arrogrant n ignored my greetings to her... so I LPPL n walk back to my table n continue eating with my kaki... then 1 of my kaki suggested to me to get back @ her.... By driving my car right in front of her when she is supposed to leave..... n then play a gentleman by offering her a ride home... n thus do the same old trick by leaving her in the middle of the expressway..... As we were going to finish our supper, n also Amy was abt to finish her supper with her friends... i quickly go n collect my car n drive to the shop to wait for her to come out of the restaurant...n unwind my window n ask her whether she wanna get a free ride from me?? I thought she will keep her arrogrant LJ CB face n ignore me agian... But to my surprise... she replied ok.... Along the trip to her place... i was intending to execute my move of alighting her in the middle of the expressway..... little did I know that I gotta put over the road shoulder as she was giving my small head a gentle grip on it..... shit this slut...... she knew my weak-point... n not longer later... she gave me a BJ right in my car n allow me to CIM as I told her I don't wanna dirty my new car..... after that, I sent her home.... she offered me to stay over-nite, which I initially wanted to agree to her invitation... but I restraint myself as I want to maintain my value since now I started to own a nice car..... n thus no point being so desparate to fall into a SG gal trap....
N this past week, Amy had been either calling me up for dinner or smsing me sweet little gd nite sms (which she won't do at all in the past)... yet... I will kindly reject her date saying busy.... or reply her just a short gd nite.... LOL... but wait till this coming weekend... N I may be coming up with a gd paln to screw the hell out of this materialitic SG gal.....

Well... after my 3 short encounters... any brudders her any comment?? Pls feel free to do so...

U r a Man! Love the way u did!! I support u!!! Well done!!!

[geylangbonker]

Most spore gals looks are not pretty with artificial make-ups and their looks don't last long...If let say, you seen her the first time, you already desire to plan on how to up her "up the lorry" But after some time getting along with her , her looks dosen't interest you as her looks not an everlasting beauty.

Spore gals are very lazy cannot do housework and culinary cooking skills also very lousy , don't know how to cook good food.Once back from office, unhooked her bra and pull down her lacy panties for the day and throw into the
basket and went for her shower expecting her husband to wash for her.

My advise to all men who went through NS or born with a pink IC means our own people , never married local women ,think how much marriage investment budget you've invest on her, wedding banquet, honeymoon, bridal photography,
housing loan, newly-wed renovation fees , unfortunately , when comes to divorce, she ask for compensation...how do you feel...you are at the losing end of yourself.

Please use you intelligent brain to think and not your kidney to think when considering to tie the knot with a sillyporean woman.:mad:

[Red_Wine]

Nabei me. still taking public transport! No wonder hair comb how nicely also no gal look at me!! lol

[Softcore]

Don't you realise that by unnecessarily showering a girl with gifts, you are effectively putting the pussy on a pedestal without any investment on her part? You NEVER shower a girl with gifts until she has indicated some interest in you and has invested some of her time and energy in you. Don't be overly foolish and throw your money away to a girl who doesn't reciprocate.

[wewe2010]

Hi Baby85,

Totally agreed with you.. Good Point...:)

[Orgasmic]

recently i got to know one PRC chick aged 23 or 24. Considered DECENT girl but kept asking me to find house or room for her to stay.. even asked for easizlink card to use and asked me to send her here and there till i quite tired of her.

screwed her many many times in my condo throughout the nights over a period of two months and told her we are not suitable. hehe

[LeMans]

Sigh....

Their theory is alway 'What's mine is always mine, What's yours is also mine!'.........

Too late for me liao, signed on the fxxking dotted line, that means 50% gone even if we seperate......

Sigh again.... Mistake made 10 years ago....

Well said bro... My good NS buddy used to tell me that when we r serving oru NS back then... seems like this theory applies to all man marrying SG gals.... Why are pre-nuptial agreements not applicable in our SG law??

Anyway, to all bros, I m back... Will update soon on my huntings for the past 2mths with Amy n another new fling I manage to hook through a friend gathering.....

[soroes2010]

[QUOTE=LeMans;4718982]Well said bro... My good NS buddy used to tell me that when we r serving oru NS back then... seems like this theory applies to all man marrying SG gals.... Why are pre-nuptial agreements not applicable in our SG law??

TS: Totally agreed with u.... It is so unfair to all men marrying our SG gals....

Waiting for your new installment updates....

[arizonadick]

well it depends on some type of gals. some are not bad. some are bad...hehe

[jacky43]

Sorry! cannot find the topic on YOG horny guys asking, the 3volunteers for special things. Was it almost the same liked, men vsiiting Thailand see a girl he fancy on the street. Approach ask how much? Wrong impressions or, just our ppls here wanted to host the YOG so much.

The horny overseas men came here, they have this thinking u wanted this event right? We also want this special services, u have WLs? Well! I think local girls r to have the experience, the knowledge of turn down the offer in a gentle friendly passion ways.

Eg, in hotel i ask the recep for special, she will get a man servant to see how he can help, locating a WL for me. Nothing to it, just part of the days work. Local girls, there is a big world out there, is not pamper, sweet with BF &, daddy around all the time.

[Shocking_vibes]

To all the bro's here, I've dated Singaporean, Malaysian, Thai and also one New Zealander (currently single)

And i have to say...the girls that you always see in the picture threads..you know...those partying and kindda looks semi-chio to chio...these are the types that are always looking for a free ride. What I mean a free ride is they want the materialistic stuff in life..and a guy dumb enough to provide it.

I've dated a few chio bu like that.....and never once did I succumb to their request of buying expensive handbags. The only time I ever bought an expensive hand-bag for my gf was the new zealander..she never did ask for anything when we were dating and she was kind and considerate...too bad her family objected if not maybe will get married liow.

I think pretty gals nowadays realise that they can make use of their pretty face to get things in their life..I have no idea about you but i would not want to get married to a girl like that.....that would be like bringing a big liability back to your bed...how many tens of thousand dollars can you afford??

Still..my motto is still "If you want to cheong, go out and cheong, but come back must be good husband and good father"



One more thing about gals with just a pretty face is that their face is a depreciating asset. Over the years when she ages her looks will fade but a man can invest his money wisely and gain more.


I read an article about that somewhere and there was a very good explaination from a rich man to a chio bu about why she's not worth him spending money on.

[Jwylong]

is the same everywhere !
no money no honey :D

[Rayflix]

Managed to find the post for you bro.

A young and pretty lady posted this on a popular forum:


Title: What should I do to marry a rich guy?


I'm going to be honest of what I'm going to say here. I'm 25 this year. I'm very pretty, have style and good taste. I wish to marry a guy with $500k annual salary or above. You might say that I'm greedy, but an annual salary of $1M is considered only as middle class in New York . My requirement is not high. Is there anyone in this forum who has an income of $500k annual salary? Are you all married? I wanted to ask: what should I do to marry rich persons like you? Among those I've dated, the richest is $250k annual income, and it seems that this is my upper limit. If someone is going to move into high cost residential area on the west of New York City Garden, $250k annual income is not enough.

I'm here humbly to ask a few questions:

1) Where do most rich bachelors hang out? (Please list down the names and addresses of bars, restaurant, gym)

2) Which age group should I target?

3) Why most wives of the riches is only average-looking? I've met a few girls who doesn't have looks and are not interesting, but they are able to marry rich guys

4) How do you decide who can be your wife, and who can only be your girlfriend? (my target now is to get married)


Ms. Pretty


Awesome reply:

Dear Ms. Pretty,

I have read your post with great interest. Guess there are lots of girls out there who have similar questions like yours. Please allow me to analyse your situation as a professional investor. My annual income is more than $500k, which meets your requirement, so I hope everyone believes that I'm not wasting time here. From the standpoint of a business person, it is a bad decision to marry you.. The answer is very simple, so let me explain.

Put the details aside, what you're trying to do is an exchange of 'beauty' and 'money': Person A provides beauty, and Person B pays for it, fair and square. However, there's a deadly problem here, your beauty will fade, but my money will not be gone without any good reason. The fact is, my income might increase from year to year, but you can't be prettier year after year. Hence from the viewpoint of economics, I am an appreciation asset, and you are a depreciation asset. It's not just normal depreciation, but exponential depreciation. If that is your only asset, your value will be much worried 10 years later.

By the terms we use in Wall Street, every trading has a position, dating with you is also a 'trading position'. If the trade value dropped we will sell it and it is not a good idea to keep it for long term - same goes with the marriage that you wanted. It might be cruel to say this, but in order to make a wiser decision any assets with great depreciation value will be sold or 'leased'. Anyone with over $500k annual income is not a fool; we would only date you, but will not marry you. I would advice that you forget looking for any clues to marry a rich guy. And by the way, you could make yourself to become a rich person with $500k annual income. This has better chance than finding a rich fool..


Hope this reply helps. If you are interested in 'leasing' services, do contact me....

Signed,
CEO
J.P. Morgan

[Arucard]

ya good one i have read it in cna forum cut to the point

[ghjkl]

...my motto is still "If you want to cheong, go out and cheong, but come back must be good husband and good father"

respect. v

[lulul]

[

My advice to those young men here is to strike out and do business if u have enough savings. IF you work hard 18 hours a day for 5 years straight without wasting time on gals & good cars, you will be earning $20k easily a month once u hit 40 year old because a significant portion will be coming from rentals of your own factories and condos.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. This is really priceless bro. My boss and friends who are older than me also gave me this advice. That was what they did exactly.. and they have some boobilicious girls by their side and a fat pocket as well. Cheers.

[lulul]

Hello all Bros. Just to sidetrack abit lah.

Years back imy ex ditched me.. it's like days later.. she found a new ''gold-mine'' la. Age older than me, drive car aldy. Till now she still with that guy.. The guy face not good looking one leh. Trust me. His pocket is just FAT. Now all her pics are like herself with ''abit'' of LV/GUCCI bag showing off in the image lah.. Or her inside the car taking pics. It's like telling the whole world la.. Really BWG..

To me.. to attract a girl in SG, first u have to attract her using the wealth, then goes the character/looks and such. Sad ain't it? :(

[tomvoyeur]

Thanks. This is really priceless bro. My boss and friends who are older than me also gave me this advice. That was what they did exactly.. and they have some boobilicious girls by their side and a fat pocket as well. Cheers.

Would you rather the gals going after u dick or ur monies? If its the later, then dun blame her if she goes after someone else's dick..... ;)

[k3lvin123]

In my views, what is considered pampered? Spoil brat type? To be frank i'm not a playboy but must declare i got more than 30 gfs since 11 years old. Mostly dont fit me, i must say sg gals are more 'dao' then other country gals but if u really know them, they're actually quite qing cai one except for those educated ones. I got a ns friend gf a korean she damn jialat one lor dont know what to say. But frankly speaking alot of my friends their gf or wife singaporean gal i talking about is stick with them to the end one even if they have to eat bread only.

[LeMans]

Wahz.... Didn't know my post still alive...

Anyway, just an update... Recently ended a short 3 months short relationship with an Indo-Chinese girl (not those rich kind lahz).... Well... my point here is if u have a deep pocket... then better change girl as and when u want, irregardless of nationality.... I thought I found a gd gf... yet end up is another gold-digger... thus.... just fuck and throw away will do.... Whether SG or non-SG girls.... if found a good woman, then grab it and stick it for life... We can have many FBs or flings... but in SG, we only can have 1 wife... thus.... must choose the correct one b4 settling down.... But said is easier than done.... if there is a legal pre-nupital marriage agreement in Singapore, how nice... n thus we can no longer worried about that expensive dotted line we gotta sign on the day when ROM.... haiz....

[cho27]

Isn't it a trade off? No offence but the average girl walking down Orchard road wouldn't be able to hold a decent conversation beyond just fashion, movies and clubbing.

Materialism or the root of it is insecurities. A person needs to buy more to fill themselves up as a person. It is a value system of the status quo.

Its equally men's fault cause half of us got no balls. We want those girls that are not materialistic, but can we handle a smart independent, ambitious woman?

It's a double age sword. If you want a SYT, most likely shes a moron no offence. One whos naive and probably defines herself by her fendi or chanel bag. Perhaps its time to wake up and smell the reality not the roses, because far too many of us (boys included) live in such luxury lifestyles compared to many people around the world.

I want to leave you all with, why not start with a test? Not driving and bringing her not to a high class restaurant on the 1st 3 dates. Be creative go for picnics or whatever la.

If you see early on shes materialistic, well.. then you know la

[BabySexy]

i'm also a SG gal .

but what i can say is not most gals are like that .. there are still some gals that are not like that .. keep looking ard ba ...

jia you !

[1128138]

i'm also a SG gal .

but what i can say is not most gals are like that .. there are still some gals that are not like that .. keep looking ard ba ...

jia you !

as u say
not most gals are like that means 95% of sg gals are,
some gals that are not like that mean only 1% or least
4% is half half.haahaa...:D
so result is better not looking for sg gals or turn to become gay.

[1128138]

so thats why sg have more n more gay.:p

[Kula]

now i think is not even issue of SG gals pampered anot ..

don u all realised tht no matter where u go .. it seems tht there is more PRC gals tht our own SG gals ..

sometimes .. i find even hard to find 1 SG gals ..


i will sae although SG gals are machiam golden cb .. but i feel they are much more better than a PRC ... my own experience :)

[kwaychup]

I got a car and bike. I only use car when necessary, so when meeting girls I always drive bike to test them. Knn all hiam my bike... the only 1 never hiam is my current gf. After being with her for so long she's not materialistic and never suck my $ @ all. Lucky to have her :D

good for you bro,
my current gf for 4 yrs also nv hiam me,
got no car no bike but she never mind about that
got sub 1 credit card for her and she nv spend it at all
even she wants to use it, she would tell me.
guess i'm lucky to have her.

[freezetheDB]

u know we guys sometimes fan jian one.

often we find a nice girl who is not after our money, but she is not adventurous in sex or give good bbbj etc...

then a nympho sex queen comes along and blew our mind (err.. load) and then we men start to gian her more.

the good gf finds out and good game to the r/s.

its a vicious cycle. Men yearns for fresh meat. Women yearn for a devoted man.

[cho27]

This can actually be quite an interesting topic actually, as it seems everyone in society now holds themselves at different value systems/worth.

If you actually want to just have a good fuck with girls, there are plenty out there without you needing to be despo or resorting to cash. Like a business, you must have a plan. If you go and do business without a plan, who want to do business or sleep with you?

Same with relationship what, someone is not just loving you but looking to spend part of their future with you. Again if you have no plan, what you expect?

We are suffering the syndrome of materialism? Perhaps it is a reflection of the people who stay in the country? As much as I give girls for being downright selfish and materialistic at times, once in a while you will meet one that just completely captivates you and blows your mind. Those are the ones worth fighting and living for.

I myself know the situation with girls, so therefore I've refused to drive or take them to expensive restaurant. Its become quite a fun game to see whether they are your normal typical low IQ, high maintainence girl or someone who actually has a brain of her own.

You decide la bros..

[mr chen]

I would say most SG gals are materialistic including sg guys as well. This is a competitive society so everything is judged based on monetary terms.

For me, I found a gd gf but if I nd an Ang moh pussy to bonk, I will ctc okt lor. But to hv an affair, nope cos I dun wan to jeopardize my r/s. Such business transaction works for me.

[Martian.C]

SG girls are generally way too pampered ba :P The way I see it, these days if you don't have car or cannot spend on them it's fatchance one lor.

I don't mind picking up the tab for dinner at decent places, but a surprising number of girls don't eat at hawker centres (not that I will bring them there for a date) at all - they say what it's too hot or too dirty or crowded, can only eat at restaurants. Which is perfectly okay if they are earning good $$ as well but then some friends of mine are unemployed but still expect this kind of thing...

Car is a big big big big factor for girls too. Bros with no car are super disadvantaged.. even if you cab around it's not good enough because they want to be fetched around etc etc. Just look at those girls in clubs lo, if you drive up in a nice car, good chance they will follow you home man..

Having said that... I think it's also a fact that SG guys too despo la, so they enable SG girls to be pampered lo. I see some of them ar.. really damn one kind.. not even bf gf already carry bag, send the girl everywhere, girl hungry drive all the way across the island to tapao food for her, go queue dragon queue to buy the stupid KOI bubble tea to deliver to their house - is really spoil market and make the girl have unrealistic expectations la...

Girls to a certain extent sure see if you got $$ one la.. it's a given in our society since they want to live in condo have nice car but more than 50% of girls don't want to work for it... so the next best thing is to look for a cow to work for them lo (you).. sad but true.

[tiddley69]

Bro, you are right! I had my fair share of relationships with sg girls, I strongly agree with you that majority of them are materialistic or realistic thus adding alot of pressure resulting to alot of unnecessary argument in a relationship.

After I had enough of sg girls I tot to myself why not venture into KL for a change, indeed the opportunity arrives and I went over in 2007, till now I still reside in KL but I do go back sg to visit my good old buddies and parents once awhile. In 2007 I met a girl from KL whom I eventually married in 2008. All I can say she is the most wonderful thing that happened to me in my life. She's pretty, slim, confident yet dislike branded. She can carry herself really well even with non-branded clothes. There was once I bought her a gucci bag and she nagged at me the whole day, had a earful that day...lolx.

She can cook well and washes most of our clothes, I suggested to get a washing machine but she rejected that idea saying hand wash is always better. Don't think I can ever find another girl like her anymore. For those guys out there, just keep your options open. I'm sure oneday you will get a gf/wife that suits you.

Cheers:)
That is really nice to hear. I'm glad you're very happy and that you got such a wonderful woman beside you.

Take good care of her :)

[jacky43]

I think certain degress is correct but, is not a bad thing. Girls are used to it by their parents, brothers and some males who pretend to care. After face off! It will be too late. Sorry! Abit out of scope here.

Now, i have no % to prove only guess that Pri schools we seen many girls, with good grades than the boys. Up till the leaving school exams, thing is in Sec schools sudden jump up of boys results. How so?

A medical reason, code red many girls cannot concentrate on her studies. Maybe i not sure but, there are many girls who did well in exams during the periods. No excuses! Females here need try her best, problems cannot solve, don't cry here and there. Worse push the blame to another person or, to the guys.

Maybe, a reason guys here prefer overseas bride. They are much stronger , can take the shits, so to write here.

[stolten]

Bro, you are right! I had my fair share of relationships with sg girls, I strongly agree with you that majority of them are materialistic or realistic thus adding alot of pressure resulting to alot of unnecessary argument in a relationship.

After I had enough of sg girls I tot to myself why not venture into KL for a change, indeed the opportunity arrives and I went over in 2007, till now I still reside in KL but I do go back sg to visit my good old buddies and parents once awhile. In 2007 I met a girl from KL whom I eventually married in 2008. All I can say she is the most wonderful thing that happened to me in my life. She's pretty, slim, confident yet dislike branded. She can carry herself really well even with non-branded clothes. There was once I bought her a gucci bag and she nagged at me the whole day, had a earful that day...lolx.

She can cook well and washes most of our clothes, I suggested to get a washing machine but she rejected that idea saying hand wash is always better. Don't think I can ever find another girl like her anymore. For those guys out there, just keep your options open. I'm sure oneday you will get a gf/wife that suits you.

Cheers:)

Bro, I feel happy for you, man! Really!:)

[stolten]

Hey bro,

Well done on your gig on those materialistic girls man....i like that,i agree with most bros as in SG gals are materialistic but like what one bro said,they are also realistic...so we should be realistic ourselves man.....be a gentleman at 1st....spend abit get to fuck them and then break off and find another one at least u get something new and u are still spending money.

In comparison,SG guys are actually quite gentlemen liao leh.The way we behave and the kind of money we would spend on women we are considered not too bad liao....

I am currently living in states and i am dating a ABC,i was very surprised that when it comes to money,these gals will actually pay more than the guys do or they will be very forward and tell u upfront that if u wan to go out for dinner tonite then u got to pay for her bcos she has no money or something like that.I think its quite cool in a sense that they are not so materialistic and to them money is not everything unlike the fuck-up SG gals that we have back home.....

With regards
RYAW

hey bro, u migrated to the states? well done!

[stolten]

Friend, in this world, the only thing people know you are rich is the type of car you drive and the place you stay. This is the fact and you may not like it, its still a fact.

I used to stay in a ulu HDB estate without a vehicle. My parents werent rich. I worked very hard for a decade, slogging 18 hours a day for 7 days a week. No entertainment no anything. Yes, the only mediacorp artistes I knew were probably Pan Ling Ling and Zoe tay and a little bit of Fann wong. Other than that, I dont know anything about their personal lives or that of other artistes.

Throughout the decade, I have met many materialistic gals. No kidding. They are damn straightforward. Even for guys, they are frank and they will hang around you if you are a big-shot.

Comparing the time when I first came out to work and now, I have amassed a few condos in bukit timah and holland areas, a few commercial factories and a few so-called luxury cars worth $200k and above. The attitude of those associates changed for the better... much better over these years. ITs damn obvious.

This is a real world and in a real world, money talks. If you are just a normal policeman pounding the street wearing an ugly uniform holding a normal sergeant or ASP rank, how much can you earn? People know u earn $4000 a month at most and in SG context, its damn pathetic. Even if you buy an Audi A6 or Cayman to show off, at the end of the day, you are still a... lowly police officer earning a meagre pay & people know that.

My advice to those young men here is to strike out and do business if u have enough savings. IF you work hard 18 hours a day for 5 years straight without wasting time on gals & good cars, you will be earning $20k easily a month once u hit 40 year old because a significant portion will be coming from rentals of your own factories and condos.

I wanna be like you, man~ In the money-making sense

[stolten]

这是社会的错
(Blame it on society)

And of course, their mothers!!!!!

Someone once wrote in SBF that it was the mother of the girl who told her when she was small, "grow up, marry a rich man. Don't be like me, so stupid to marry your father. Look at me now, toiling away with your father. What a suffering life!"

i LOL-ed at the sentence~ Nice one!

[ghostalker]

What to say man...

I am lucky enough to have met several girls who are not materialistic at all, they are just your plain Jane next door. But off course they look average, why? b'coz they dun wash ton of $$ buying the latest clothes and make up to look like those who you really want to bonk.

Sometimes us guys also one kind, only look at the outside... I'm also one of them =p

But I know real life is never perfect. Was very lucky to cross path with a wonderful girl 3 years back, took the chance and we are still tgt now. I don't drive and don't come from a well off family and pay for everything myself. Sometimes, I would bring her to a simple restaurant for dinner and she will nag and say food court is enough. I think I'm just lucky

Good luck bros... Look pass the boobs and the pussy and you will will definitely fine the perfect one...

[Softcore]

I completely agree with you. I think a large reason why some men face the perpetual issue of finding gold diggers is because flaunting their wealth is easier as compared to actually developing a witty personality or terrific interests. There's nothing inherently wrong with this approach, but the man in question shouldn't complain that they're only after his money.

What you think, you attract.

Isn't it a trade off? No offence but the average girl walking down Orchard road wouldn't be able to hold a decent conversation beyond just fashion, movies and clubbing.

Materialism or the root of it is insecurities. A person needs to buy more to fill themselves up as a person. It is a value system of the status quo.

Its equally men's fault cause half of us got no balls. We want those girls that are not materialistic, but can we handle a smart independent, ambitious woman?

It's a double age sword. If you want a SYT, most likely shes a moron no offence. One whos naive and probably defines herself by her fendi or chanel bag. Perhaps its time to wake up and smell the reality not the roses, because far too many of us (boys included) live in such luxury lifestyles compared to many people around the world.

I want to leave you all with, why not start with a test? Not driving and bringing her not to a high class restaurant on the 1st 3 dates. Be creative go for picnics or whatever la.

If you see early on shes materialistic, well.. then you know la

[cutemush]

Not really... i think its the generation thingy.... get those before 80s... those above that shd be less materialistic.... its the strawberry generations tat r like tat... it doessnt matter guys or gals... its the same

[fabiann]

last time i had a msian gf which i got to know her in a gaming shop... i didnt have the courage to get to know her, but thru some networking stuff "friendster" i managed to get to know her...

so after a few weeks of wooing, she became my gf... as she is a work permit holder in singapore, she will have to rent a room at that point of time.. i could not bring her up to my house bcuz my parents will nag and nag. so we decided to rent a room outside to ourselves...

i was with her abt 2 years plus close to 3.. always during chinese new year, she will go back her hometown in pahang, she will always ask me to follow her bcuz her mum wanna see me.. but i always rejected... so i think her mum also sian, and made a trip down to singapore juz to see and talk to me...

so after 2 years or so in the relationship, i have to admit i also abit "boring" of this relationship, but she was the one who initate sex with me.. having those "special" kind of treatment, example, CIM, COF...

so i did not really bother abt it, and i started to pub and club with mine group of frens, and got to know a singapore girl.. so yea this singapore girl is seperated from her husband with 2 kids...

and my that msian gf knew abt this case, and did not even say anything.. she juz lazy beside me everyday and i can always hear her weeping away, but i did not bother...

so juz 1 day i decided to walk out on that msian girl.. and be with that singapore girl.. after which, the singapore girl pattern come out liao, expect me to support her, her 2 kids, and ask me to rent a condo for her and her kids.. and ask me to buy this and that.. there was once, she went shopping with me, and spend abt 2k plus on a bag.. i juz kept quiet.. and she said, this is my job to support her...

so i tahan till abt 1 year, and her husband came back and find her and she left me juz like how i left my msian gf... i supposed its karma.. :o

till today, i still have those pictures taken with my msian gf, and juz sit down and asked myself.. wtf have i done... and she block me from facebook, when i managed to find her... she is now tgt with another singapore guy.. hope that guy will give her happiness...

the end

[onlyhuman]

you have just threw away a nice lady...

[sup3rm2n]

Sometimes I wonder if there is a perfect mix of a good girl who isn't pampered, saves more than spend, doesn't like branded bags, willing to go thru thick and thin with you and best of all great on bed.

My girl, doesn't really like to spend my money usually spend her own. Isn't pampered, doesn't mind eating kopitiam and cheap food. Love branded bag but used her own money, and isn't good at sex.

I think have to give and take bah.

[maxman]

last time i had a msian gf which i got to know her in a gaming shop... i didnt have the courage to get to know her, but thru some networking stuff "friendster" i managed to get to know her...

so after a few weeks of wooing, she became my gf... as she is a work permit holder in singapore, she will have to rent a room at that point of time.. i could not bring her up to my house bcuz my parents will nag and nag. so we decided to rent a room outside to ourselves...

i was with her abt 2 years plus close to 3.. always during chinese new year, she will go back her hometown in pahang, she will always ask me to follow her bcuz her mum wanna see me.. but i always rejected... so i think her mum also sian, and made a trip down to singapore juz to see and talk to me...

so after 2 years or so in the relationship, i have to admit i also abit "boring" of this relationship, but she was the one who initate sex with me.. having those "special" kind of treatment, example, CIM, COF...

so i did not really bother abt it, and i started to pub and club with mine group of frens, and got to know a singapore girl.. so yea this singapore girl is seperated from her husband with 2 kids...

and my that msian gf knew abt this case, and did not even say anything.. she juz lazy beside me everyday and i can always hear her weeping away, but i did not bother...

so juz 1 day i decided to walk out on that msian girl.. and be with that singapore girl.. after which, the singapore girl pattern come out liao, expect me to support her, her 2 kids, and ask me to rent a condo for her and her kids.. and ask me to buy this and that.. there was once, she went shopping with me, and spend abt 2k plus on a bag.. i juz kept quiet.. and she said, this is my job to support her...

so i tahan till abt 1 year, and her husband came back and find her and she left me juz like how i left my msian gf... i supposed its karma.. :o

till today, i still have those pictures taken with my msian gf, and juz sit down and asked myself.. wtf have i done... and she block me from facebook, when i managed to find her... she is now tgt with another singapore guy.. hope that guy will give her happiness...

the end

As best as I know and experienced, a woman who loves a man will do a lot to make the man happy, including sexually provided that she is open and brave enough to do it, such as CIM, CIP, outdoor, etc.

You really lost big time a fantastic girl you had who loved you in exchange for a separated/divorced mother who needed material provisions which you gave.

I know it's a generalization but it seems true that many Asian women are concerned and obsessed about materialism and wealth (the man's bank account) as opposed to a man's character. Having and raising children is an extremely big responsibility. Very important to know, responsibility is NEVER overrated. This virtue, if absent in any man or woman, will not be a good father or mother, and this virtue should not be ignored just because the man has a fat bank balance or the woman has big bouncy boobs barely cupped in her bra.

[Sirrus]

duno man but most of the sg girls i know super spoiled...

[BaoYangYou]

Most gals are pampered but if they really fall head over heels for you, they sure know how to pamper you too. If you fall head over heels for them instead, yes, they expect to be pampered for sure

[HCKing]

Most gals are pampered but if they really fall head over heels for you, they sure know how to pamper you too. If you fall head over heels for them instead, yes, they expect to be pampered for sure

SG gal logic = if u love me must always please me. nvr please me enough means doesnt love me oredi. time to give the more deserving guys a chance.:p

[LiKiSi]

Agree bro, that's why from bro BaoYangYou's post, i reckon he is hinting make sure to get one that is crazy about you not you crazy about her lol

[asdfghjkl]

no offense but as i travel around, i find both SG male and female.. :o

[Greatking]

SG gal logic = if u love me must always please me. nvr please me enough means doesnt love me oredi. time to give the more deserving guys a chance.:p

This is a universal rule....:o

[Greatking]

no offense but as i travel around, i find both SG male and female.. :o

E definition of "pampered" is very subjective. Different culture and upbringing, people look at things differently.

I went to my ex-gf in her hometown in Vietnam. Her house is just seated next to a cemetery (less than 5m away from first tomb). I felt very uncomfortable about it. Her mum said i'm a city boy. The definition of cityboy in their context is "pampered".

:D

[LonerLoner]

Thank you to the thread bumper, it was from 2010 then yesterday bumped.

I think page 1 to 6 is very good read, instead of plain sex stories I'd seen some good advice that I can share with my fellow bros or my juniors in office.

One again, thanks thread bumper and those who posted at 2010 then. I'm not trolling or post to get a post count :)

[deludedgal]

but who wants to date a stingy guy who expects girls to pay on dates -_-" it's like telling the girl she's not worth it. sorry i guess this is how girls intepret it.

[jameschong1]

SG gal logic = if u love me must always please me. nvr please me enough means doesnt love me oredi. time to give the more deserving guys a chance.:p
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i don't give a damn to sg girls. they flock to me knowing that i m well to do but they really no standard leh - in term of look, body, brains, manners as compar to china girls.
my massage girl in Zhuhai beat our sg girls anytime or for this case, even the batam girls are less pampered than our sg girls
always think they damn high standard when i don't even give a 2nd look at them

[Klein76]

Have to agree on this, majority of them are spoilt and materialistic.
Do we really need to have 5Cs or even more?


Hmm...i guess these are the real world of today....... :(

[HCKing]

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i don't give a damn to sg girls. they flock to me knowing that i m well to do but they really no standard leh - in term of look, body, brains, manners as compar to china girls.
my massage girl in Zhuhai beat our sg girls anytime or for this case, even the batam girls are less pampered than our sg girls
always think they damn high standard when i don't even give a 2nd look at them

speaking of yr massage girl in Zhuhai, i remembered u bragged abt giving them 'expensive' gifts like 3 for $10 t-shirt and merlion keychains. :D

really got standard, no wonder u dont need to give a 2nd look at sg girls. :p

[callmebad]

LOL! After reading most of the comments here, I realize the whole of Singapore is actually one big Geylang, because most of our women folks behave more like WLs, only interested in you if you have money

About Sg gals too pampered, I heard this remark probably more than 20 years ago,and from what I hear and observe, the situation is getting worst year by year

But what surprise me is, to local guys, SG gals can be very demanding and bitchy but to ang mohs, they behave like a little lamb, not demanding much and even trying to satisfy them

what kind of soil and weather will breed what kind of food quality

the whole of Singapore is very money-faced from top to bottom

Government who is supposed to help people to solve problem also talk money with you, telling how much they sacrifice and you need to pay them millions even if they can't perform - does this sound familiar to you - most of the SG gals that fellow Samsters meet also behave this way

At home, parents tell us to study hard, become doctors, lawyers, so you can earn lots of money

Everywhere is money-talk !

just like to say - our society is very 'sick' so it breeds sickening chicks

[joncheong]

SG girls are generally way too pampered ba :P The way I see it, these days if you don't have car or cannot spend on them it's fatchance one lor.

I don't mind picking up the tab for dinner at decent places, but a surprising number of girls don't eat at hawker centres (not that I will bring them there for a date) at all - they say what it's too hot or too dirty or crowded, can only eat at restaurants. Which is perfectly okay if they are earning good $$ as well but then some friends of mine are unemployed but still expect this kind of thing...

Car is a big big big big factor for girls too. Bros with no car are super disadvantaged.. even if you cab around it's not good enough because they want to be fetched around etc etc. Just look at those girls in clubs lo, if you drive up in a nice car, good chance they will follow you home man..

Having said that... I think it's also a fact that SG guys too despo la, so they enable SG girls to be pampered lo. I see some of them ar.. really damn one kind.. not even bf gf already carry bag, send the girl everywhere, girl hungry drive all the way across the island to tapao food for her, go queue dragon queue to buy the stupid KOI bubble tea to deliver to their house - is really spoil market and make the girl have unrealistic expectations la...

Girls to a certain extent sure see if you got $$ one la.. it's a given in our society since they want to live in condo have nice car but more than 50% of girls don't want to work for it... so the next best thing is to look for a cow to work for them lo (you).. sad but true.

agree... they want condo, car and branded bags but don't want to work hard for it....so they just open legs for the rich dudes... which make me think that they are no different from the geylang WLs i bang.... difference is sg girls suck in bed...prc wls rock the bed!

[joncheong]

marry a sg girl...she throw tantrums at you, demand this and that...make her angry she want divorce and there goes your assets and you're screwed by the law....

so makes me wonder why not get a foreign girl ...prc girls e.g. they love money too, demand this and that BUT....at least they service you song song gao jurong in bed...and if you don't marry her in singapore...no need to give her assets if divorce...singapore girls are a joke

[badboyzbleu]

bro leman!!! any updates!!! :D

i still stand by what i said!!! never induce materialistic poison by showering them with expensive gifts!!! drop them fast once they ask for it!!!

[iceman1314]

After reading all the bros comment here, I feel like a lucky sob la. My GF is half Singaporean(born here but raise in indo), she has never demanded anything from me and is more than half to pay her share, not that I want her too. Better part is, she's please in bed till I leg weak la. Must treasure her well.

[sardaukar]

We end up broke up after one day i expressed my feelings to her that i feel uncomfortable when everytime she was the one who footed the bills whenver we had meals or shopping.

Don't understand why this is an issue... it's not like you can't afford the meals, so why feel uncomfortable? :confused:

Me thinks this is actually a good virtue of hers... wish my girls are like that

[sardaukar]

difference is sg girls suck in bed...prc wls rock the bed!

You should try KOREAN wls... :D

[Yyzen]

lol agreed with natlie900 :)

if you are good/rich/capable/handsome, girls will come to you ... likewise for girls... we need to be hot/sexy/pretty , guys will come to us :)

dont blame girls if you are just not up to it..

[sweetcandy33]

I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls. By the way, you don't even know the correct spelling of pampered, how shameful.

The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you.

No, girls are not only interested in money. If you have the looks and you are capable, of course there will be girls (both ugly and pretty) who will fall for you.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are.

Apparently, all of you only know how to complain that Singaporean girls suck but yet all of you snap pictures and videos of them. Oh, perverts.

Because of your LOUSY personality, no girls will fall for you. No wonder you all have to pay for WHORES. Poor thing, I pity you all.

Well said! :D

[ahtat77]

I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls. By the way, you don't even know the correct spelling of pampered, how shameful.

The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you.

No, girls are not only interested in money. If you have the looks and you are capable, of course there will be girls (both ugly and pretty) who will fall for you.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are.

Apparently, all of you only know how to complain that Singaporean girls suck but yet all of you snap pictures and videos of them. Oh, perverts.

Because of your LOUSY personality, no girls will fall for you. No wonder you all have to pay for WHORES. Poor thing, I pity you all.

fyi most of us here have wifes and gfs so what does that mean? haha

[Moromoro]

I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls. By the way, you don't even know the correct spelling of pampered, how shameful.

The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you.

No, girls are not only interested in money. If you have the looks and you are capable, of course there will be girls (both ugly and pretty) who will fall for you.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are.

Apparently, all of you only know how to complain that Singaporean girls suck but yet all of you snap pictures and videos of them. Oh, perverts.

Because of your LOUSY personality, no girls will fall for you. No wonder you all have to pay for WHORES. Poor thing, I pity you all.

My answer to you in the following picture.
http://i46.tinypic.com/kbu8vn.jpg

[joncheong]

I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls. By the way, you don't even know the correct spelling of pampered, how shameful.

The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you.

No, girls are not only interested in money. If you have the looks and you are capable, of course there will be girls (both ugly and pretty) who will fall for you.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are.

Apparently, all of you only know how to complain that Singaporean girls suck but yet all of you snap pictures and videos of them. Oh, perverts.

Because of your LOUSY personality, no girls will fall for you. No wonder you all have to pay for WHORES. Poor thing, I pity you all.

Hi nat,

Pls dun b too quick to put us punters down. Cos you are not sure of your loved ones are doing the same as well. I myself look very decent and if you see me you won't think i frequent geylang and fls...if you got a chance to enter a brothel in geylang... You will b shocked to see young looking guys, middle aged professionals and those big directors waiting to bonk the next wl. I myself met my ex's father there... Both of us were shocked to see each other.

You get what i mean? It's not only those antisocial or sex deprived guys who visit hookers. Sometimes our gf and wife just cannot satisfy our craves.... We neeed some porcelain sexy bod girls once in awhile no matter how hot our gfs are....

So you better be careful of your loved ones also...

[asdfghjkl]

wow.. strong argument starting to show up.. this forum is full of hidden dragons, crouching tigers.. :o

[happyguy1234]

hmm this is getting interesting... what i do know is that sg girls do know to pamper themselves.... theres nothing wrong with that actually... jus that some ppl might think that they tend to act high class

[joncheong]

wow.. strong argument starting to show up.. this forum is full of hidden dragons, crouching tigers.. :o

No la not arguing la.... Only my personal point of view... Cos was said that only losers bang wls.... So gotta clear it up....even pilots and top real estate players visit wls.. You mean these professionals cannot get girls of their choice???

[dodoboy]

hahaha, well TS. i can't help but agree more.

we work our asses off to provide, and if we can't provide with luxury. we suck ? we're incapable ? because if we do not look good, we must be a slave ?
where's the logic in that.

to love our women, is to provide shelter, food and also security for the future. security in terms of leading a comfortable and stable life, plus the assurance of not ditching you to die on the streets.

providing for their luxurious needs, and the number of carats on your finger plus the face value of your wedding is not how we guys see things. in the past, women are being pampered because they stand by their male partners side no matter how rough the road down is.

some of my friends tell me, there are good women out there. i believe it is true. but definitely not the ones who would reply with a remark i saw in the previous page.

i tell them to try getting them to go through hitting the bottom of the pit in your life until you get up. tell me how many of you can pull this through, and then tell me what is "love" and what is "reliability" based on the results.

lol, i think the moment you sell car can prepare for alot of headache already.

i may be negative, but likewise with some of the bros here. we have experienced nasty stuff which has either happened to ourselves, or to people around us.

we may screw things up, but as long as we do not hurt the women emotionally. i believe we deserve as chance at things.

don't tell me only the guys fool around outside ? even if we do, at least its in a form of a transaction, where we do not want to bring back any other forms of emotions home. because we know, we have a duty to carry back there.

just 2 two cents worth. this is a never ending debate imho.

[dodoboy]

Sometimes I wonder if there is a perfect mix of a good girl who isn't pampered, saves more than spend, doesn't like branded bags, willing to go thru thick and thin with you and best of all great on bed.

My girl, doesn't really like to spend my money usually spend her own. Isn't pampered, doesn't mind eating kopitiam and cheap food. Love branded bag but used her own money, and isn't good at sex.

I think have to give and take bah.

bro, good sex is another thing. life together, and being a sex goddess weigh differently. haha, you are with a nice girl bro.

[heye]

As best as I know and experienced, a woman who loves a man will do a lot to make the man happy, including sexually provided that she is open and brave enough to do it, such as CIM, CIP, outdoor, etc.

You really lost big time a fantastic girl you had who loved you in exchange for a separated/divorced mother who needed material provisions which you gave.

I know it's a generalization but it seems true that many Asian women are concerned and obsessed about materialism and wealth (the man's bank account) as opposed to a man's character. Having and raising children is an extremely big responsibility. Very important to know, responsibility is NEVER overrated. This virtue, if absent in any man or woman, will not be a good father or mother, and this virtue should not be ignored just because the man has a fat bank balance or the woman has big bouncy boobs barely cupped in her bra.

very well said bro , i second u !!!

[kenta]

hahaha, well TS. i can't help but agree more.

we work our asses off to provide, and if we can't provide with luxury. we suck ? we're incapable ? because if we do not look good, we must be a slave ?
where's the logic in that.

to love our women, is to provide shelter, food and also security for the future. security in terms of leading a comfortable and stable life, plus the assurance of not ditching you to die on the streets.

providing for their luxurious needs, and the number of carats on your finger plus the face value of your wedding is not how we guys see things. in the past, women are being pampered because they stand by their male partners side no matter how rough the road down is.

some of my friends tell me, there are good women out there. i believe it is true. but definitely not the ones who would reply with a remark i saw in the previous page.

i tell them to try getting them to go through hitting the bottom of the pit in your life until you get up. tell me how many of you can pull this through, and then tell me what is "love" and what is "reliability" based on the results.

lol, i think the moment you sell car can prepare for alot of headache already.

i may be negative, but likewise with some of the bros here. we have experienced nasty stuff which has either happened to ourselves, or to people around us.

we may screw things up, but as long as we do not hurt the women emotionally. i believe we deserve as chance at things.

don't tell me only the guys fool around outside ? even if we do, at least its in a form of a transaction, where we do not want to bring back any other forms of emotions home. because we know, we have a duty to carry back there.

just 2 two cents worth. this is a never ending debate imho.




i had 2 friends who had found this kind of nice gal and planning for marriage, both couples had relationship for 10years. and both ladies are below average in looks size and figure but with a wonderful heart. :)

1 example is 1 of the 2 guy was retrench and jobless for 4yrs the gal help support him and give him constant encouragement and once he got a new good paying job he got everything for his gal even if she rejects the gift.

Those "Public Toilets" will remain as what it is meant for, guys should just open their eyes big big to get the correct long term one. :)

[dodoboy]

Hi all brudders,

I m finally back from my short weekend trip... Just a quick update from my weekend gateway.....

The whole weekend was just simply pure sex n hardcore bonking.... Till my dick is swollen... LOL... I can't believe that Amy was so wild... last time together was like a routine sex time-table (usual sex position: missionary, 69 & doggy).... now change since last time back 3 years ago... Well... We had sex in almost every where we go.... along the beach..... at a quiet street corner in the middle of the nite.... Wow... I can't believe she took the initiative n allow me to do anal..... NB.... $ince having a nice car do help in not only fishing back a slut... but more open to new sex position....

Well... Over the weekend was also a time to self-reflect my relationship with her.... as she was behaving as if she was my gf n so coincidence.... webump into one of her old schoolmate...n intro as her bf.... n thus I just play along.... n was duly reward when we went back into our resort love nest....

Anyway, I m now contemplating whether wanna accept her back?? Because.... I m afraid that she is only with me due to my current success.... n not through my own merits of winning her heart (though @ 1st, my intention was to fool her feelings, but now... seems that my heart turn soft....) Well...... After reading so much of comments, I m also quite doubtful abt having her but yet feel like enjoying the love feeling again?? So confused?? Why do we have to make such decison in life??

I hope any brudders can give me some gd advice.... Thanks in advance:=)

lol, bro. you letting your small head do the thinking for you already ?

just in case you forget, sex sells (: and it sells very very good.

[dodoboy]

i had 2 friends who had found this kind of nice gal and planning for marriage, both couples had relationship for 10years. and both ladies are below average in looks size and figure but with a wonderful heart. :)

1 example is 1 of the 2 guy was retrench and jobless for 4yrs the gal help support him and give him constant encouragement and once he got a new good paying job he got everything for his gal even if she rejects the gift.

Those "Public Toilets" will remain as what it is meant for, guys should just open their eyes big big to get the correct long term one. :)

yes bro, and i wish your friend/s a happy and blissful marriage ahead in their future life.

[carpark67]

As a girl I also like to be pampered. But I draw the line at only spending my own money and not be a financial burden to my guy. Pampering is a two ways thing and giving good sex is only something I learn recently from reading posts in SBF. END on the day "pampering" is part of loving and both partners should should contribute their fair share.

It saddened me to hear some of the stories here and the tone the guys take in answering this thread. Girls are complicated and it is difficult to paint us all in one broad stroke. To these guys who had had bad experience, I sincerely wish you luck in finding a better women who can pamper you back.

Don't zap me hor for speaking my mind.

[adventureseekin]

As a female, I disagree to a certain point. Not all r like that...

I dun owe a Gucci till 23-24 yrs and I brought it with my own money not from any guy. And I still only own few (>5 pieces of branded)! Of cuz when I compare with some gfs, I envy them... But that's life. I can chose the easy option but bedding a stranger is not my cup of tea.

But I have to say I love money. Anyone disagree or shaking his head can pass me yours... This is e real world! U need money to stay alive! Money to care for the ones u love, money to study, money to eat, money to enjoy...

I know some gals like those described but I am happy my closest gfs are not like tt.. Like lover, you chose the closest at heart wisely...

[Sandunes]

Well, in the modern days of Singapore and cyber age, it is not them who are the pampered one.

Some bros out there spoil the market really bad, buy branded, buy car for their GFs.

it is like the typical mindset of an employee, if some company treat u so good, there are dilemmas that comes in your mind.
1) you are an asset to the company and the company cannot afford to lose you.
2) you will feel you deserved better and more, that's when greed steps in.

Similar for a BGR relationship,
1) you are precious to the guy and he will use material means to satisfy you other than the love and concern showered.
2) you deserved some1 better than your current one, after comparing with your peers, whereby you maybe better looking.

Of course, it is hard for anyone to admit to turning to the dark side, look at the recent outburst of report of woman offering themselves for monetary / other rewards, similarly for those girls doing FL. I do agree some of them have a sad story behind this, while others maybe aiming to earn to study or maybe have a luxurious lifestyle.

Even at a more matured age, peer influence will still affect one, even for me.

Just my 2 cents.

[kenta]

As a female, I disagree to a certain point. Not all r like that...

I dun owe a Gucci till 23-24 yrs and I brought it with my own money not from any guy. And I still only own few (>5 pieces of branded)! Of cuz when I compare with some gfs, I envy them... But that's life. I can chose the easy option but bedding a stranger is not my cup of tea.

But I have to say I love money. Anyone disagree or shaking his head can pass me yours... This is e real world! U need money to stay alive! Money to care for the ones u love, money to study, money to eat, money to enjoy...

I know some gals like those described but I am happy my closest gfs are not like tt.. Like lover, you chose the closest at heart wisely...




yes correct everyone in their right mind would love money, but it still depends on how much greed you have in you.

if you are talking about good looking, high income high flyers you are looking at 1 potential such guy in per 1k/5k of guys and you might not even be his last girl simply because such guys can afford to play around :p


End of the day, looks, body, age you have does not last forever but earning power and money in the guys possession is and easily obtainable tru mistress and other means, even the guy is 70+. ;)

[Rickey]

As a female, I disagree to a certain point. Not all r like that...

I dun owe a Gucci till 23-24 yrs and I brought it with my own money not from any guy. And I still only own few (>5 pieces of branded)! Of cuz when I compare with some gfs, I envy them... But that's life. I can chose the easy option but bedding a stranger is not my cup of tea.

But I have to say I love money. Anyone disagree or shaking his head can pass me yours... This is e real world! U need money to stay alive! Money to care for the ones u love, money to study, money to eat, money to enjoy...

Yes, agree wif the sis...its true, the world we r all living in now, all boils down to n is abt money n r/s...wonder if we hv ever asked ourselves why we hv to rush to work every day, get caught in the daily traffic jams n only return home very late...working so very hard !! :( ...its cos for the $$$ we need to live our purposes here in life n they dun come cheap...no money no talk, we hv all heard of tis saying so often...its sad but theres hardly anything we can do to change it..sigh

[dodoboy]

need & greed = two things from different worlds.

pampering emotionally & being demanding on the materialistic side again = two things from different worlds.

do you hear us guys asking our ladies to let us f them like whores / pornstars ?

lol. i do not think its too much to ask when we hafta pay shitloads of money to "pamper" or "shower you with love"

[HCKing]

That means, if you are not perfect yourself, do not expect your wife or girlfriend to be perfect. By stereotyping and complaining that Singaporean girls are lousy in bed, suck in bed, are gold diggers, show that your character don't deserve a good woman, especially so if you have to pay for sex like Moromoro.

Sex is not a vending machine. Pleasure is a feeling, and feelings cannot be bought. No matter how much you can afford to pay a girl for sex, nothing is more enjoyable than true and sincere feelings involved.

Be grateful that you have a girlfriend or a wife who loves you for you. If you're unhappy because you think they are eyeing you for your money, leave. As simple as that.

I'm not against paid sex, but DON'T compare prostitutes to your girlfriend or wife. You all have gone too far.

will u not complain if yr bf is lousy and sucks in bed too?:D

will u not complain if he expects u to foreplay him for 30 mins only to cum less than one minute of pussy pumping?:p

[roastedbird]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ira-weissman/7-reasons-why-you-shouldn_b_1720870.html

reasons not to buy ur fiance a diamond ring! lol.

[joncheong]

Will he even be my boyfriend in the first place?

Will you know a guy's performance just by his manners and treatment of you?

Or you mean have sex with him first before deciding entering into a relationship with him?

Kindly enlighten me?

[js005]

Hi nat,

Pls dun b too quick to put us punters down. Cos you are not sure of your loved ones are doing the same as well. I myself look very decent and if you see me you won't think i frequent geylang and fls...if you got a chance to enter a brothel in geylang... You will b shocked to see young looking guys, middle aged professionals and those big directors waiting to bonk the next wl. I myself met my ex's father there... Both of us were shocked to see each other.

You get what i mean? It's not only those antisocial or sex deprived guys who visit hookers. Sometimes our gf and wife just cannot satisfy our craves.... We neeed some porcelain sexy bod girls once in awhile no matter how hot our gfs are....

So you better be careful of your loved ones also...

very true, more and more young guys who are not bad looking are visiting, we are not even surprised if we saw our father at the same place.

[ZorGong]

I think alot can be realised during courtship. Slowly but surely, time reveals all, thus don't rush to tie the knot, know your partner inside out before making the big step. There are pampered girls all over the globe, but some are wife material & will love the one she loves and stop acting like a princess once together. But if she doesn't, then better run as fast as you can before you get wedged too deeply you can't run anymore & live to regret marrying a spoilt brat!

[jameschong1]

[QUOTE=carpark67;7603263]
Girls are complicated and it is difficult to paint us all in one broad stroke
======
no at all difficult to paint all of u.
i can paint in more than one broad stroke. many strokes, many painting i promise - no difficult at all

[LeMans]

Hey Guys & Gals,

Thanks for drawing out my 2 year old thread since 2010.......

Really appreciate to all samasters who continuously share and comment their thoughts...... Keep it going.....

Currently, I am with a very good gf since last year till now (and soon to be my lifelong OC) and no doubt, I have no complaints as she is much more better than our SG gal (in btw, she is from just across the crossway) and definitely can do better than our SG gal in terms of career (she is a doctor with a private hospital), can cook well too (love n enjoy plus appreciate her cooking, given her busy work schedule every week)..... N best of all, she knows deep inside what I want (great sex as she lost her virginity to me and best part is she learns and pick up all required sex skills faster than I can even mastered all these years)...... In addition, no qualms about even taking public transport to work (without even asking me to fetch her to & fro from work, although I volunteer myself on weekends)...... Best part, never even complain that given our world-class sardine packed MRT system and bus services, she still willing to squeeze the MRT and buses during peak hours every weekday by herself as she is very independent (emotionally, financially and best part, logically too, as she had given me her virginity before our marriage) and confident that I will be her man for life (irregardless of good or poor times, healthy or sick & rich or rag periods)......... :p

[Moromoro]

Will you know a guy's performance just by his manners and treatment of you?

Or you mean have sex with him first before deciding entering into a relationship with him?

Kindly enlighten me?

Well said clap clap clap!!

[IwasApo]

I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls. By the way, 1you don't even know the correct spelling of pampered, how shameful.

The reason why 2you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because 3you whiners, call 4yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" 5you.

No, girls are not only interested in money. If 6you have the looks and 7you are capable, of course there will be girls (both ugly and pretty) who will fall for 8you.

But if 9you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way 10you all complain which shows how little respect 11you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like 12you.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy 13your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly 1you all are.

Apparently, 2all of you only know how to complain that Singaporean girls suck but yet 3all of you snap pictures and videos of them. Oh, perverts.

Because of 14your LOUSY personality, no girls will fall for you. No wonder you all have to pay for WHORES. Poor thing, I pity 4you all.

Hi, I am new here :D,

I have not read through the entire thread, but I roughly guess the direction of the thread.

Firstly "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls" have no meaning unless you add a "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and I've also hang out with Singaporean girls" Even then, I am just guessing. Its not shameful to have poor sentence construction. It just gives me a headache trying to understand / guess what you are trying to say.

"The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you." As an educated woman (if you are), you should be looking at how history interprete this. Man are not whining at pampering woman, but rather looking for the woman that deserved to be pampered. Ci Xi, the emperess dowager had to be taught by whore, in order to be pampered by the emperor. But some singaporean ladies have it in reverse, and expect the pampering to be there, and think that they deserve it. Tell me, r there no girls who bring a condescending attitude to the relationship? I will tell you there are plenty. Is it limited to Singaporean ladies? no, of course no. but Singaporean ladies just show it more. (Its a question of branding, not performance)

"No, girls are not only interested in money." Nope, they are interested in the entire package, just like guys are interested in the entire package too.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you. - character is developed through testing through fire , like how gold is tested through fire. even then, there are no pure gold, everybody has character flaws. And its those flaws that make the person unique. Just like yin and yang, every flaw is a strength and compliment to somebody's weakness and flaw. This is how real people function and perform. Perhaps its time to have a more realistic view of character, and at different point in time they are all lousy.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are. This takes the cake, as an equalizer, because likewise you are generalizing all singaporean men look for whores and are ungentlemanly. So the same emotion and feelings that lead you up to this climatic moment, when your emotions dictate you to express this out and write this out, is the same emotion that the men are expressing in the thread. Write or wrong, this are their emotions and experiences. For me, I'm still sleeping with local singaporean woman, and the intelligent and witty ones never walked away from me, so I should be doing just fine, irregardless of what you say or feel. :D

lastly, there are 14 instances of singular you, and 4 instance of you all, which suggest you are writing to someone that said the same thing to you, or perhaps dumped you because he couldn't stand your attitude. Of course, I am just guessing here. I could be wrong. In any case, I hope the guy with a perfect character comes along and may you meet him. :D

[itrr]

I lurked around the forum since dephi days and usually i don't comment. But seeing your replies, i can't help but say, WELL SAID.

Nat, you sound like an attention seeking whore. Just shut it. You might be a queen in Flowerpod, but in SBF, :rolleyes:

I wonder what brings you here in the first place? Are you here to understand men more or to degrade us more? Or are you looking for your man here?

:rolleyes:

[littlepok]

I lurked around the forum since dephi days and usually i don't comment. But seeing your replies, i can't help but say, WELL SAID.

Nat, you sound like an attention seeking whore. Just shut it. You might be a queen in Flowerpod, but in SBF, :rolleyes:

I wonder what brings you here in the first place? Are you here to understand men more or to degrade us more? Or are you looking for your man here?

:rolleyes:

found her man surfing this forum and trying to hunt him down? :D:D

we got the right to say what we want, screw whoever we want (willing parties of course). don't get deprived, plenty of good bros inside here who can give u all the pampering u need.

[itrr]

found her man surfing this forum and trying to hunt him down? :D:D

we got the right to say what we want, screw whoever we want (willing parties of course). don't get deprived, plenty of good bros inside here who can give u all the pampering u need.

Question is, is she worth pampering?? With her type of attitude? Im convinced she is deprived of pampering which explains her presence here.

We welcome friendly debate. But her tone is simply :rolleyes:

[littlepok]

Question is, is she worth pampering?? With her type of attitude? Im convinced she is deprived of pampering which explains her presence here.

We welcome friendly debate. But her tone is simply :rolleyes:

well, depends on her looks and assets. even if serious attitude, with the 2 preceding qualities, many bros still will give her the pampering she will never forget. :D

[itrr]

Chances are she won't give give any chances to anyone because we are not deserving. :rolleyes:

[IwasApo]

Chances are she won't give give any chances to anyone because we are not deserving. :rolleyes:

Maybe can ask her who the guy that dump her is, like what is his nick in sbf etc and get him go say his side of the story, maybe read an old FR on her, and we can help keep a lookout for better guys for her. Like whenever here got virgins and lonely guys looking for gf.

Help build rapport with the flowerpod girls mah. :D

[poi123]

Gals need to be pamper.. I will say in the past I give almost everything to my exs,but in the end I am still single.. Is becos their attitude really cannot make it,they take it for granted,in the middle of the want to eat crab,must da bao for her.. After finish eating slp.. They don't appreciate..
So tell myself,try getting into relationship with foreign gals.. Did wasted some time and money for them, but it's good as I can study their culture and character.. So eventually, had a gf from Thai and together for 3yrs.. Everything is still very good,the honey moon is still on going.. She knows what I want.. And I am willing to spend on her.. It's much worth it.. Cos at least I am happy and we are planning to marry.. Some info of myself, I am just a normal looking guy,and she is real beauty,can fight with Thailand number 1 actress(if u guys go google),no joke.. I am a lucky guy..
If bros here had this kind of experience,they should know the difference between foreign gals and local gals.. Just sharing my experience.. So I will rather waste time and money for a foreign gal than SG gals.. And all my guys in office is all attach with foreign gals from Malaysia,china,Vietnam and Thailand.. No one's gf is a local!!!!!!!!

[chakachaka]

Gals need to be pamper.. I will say in the past I give almost everything to my exs,but in the end I am still single.. Is becos their attitude really cannot make it,they take it for granted,in the middle of the want to eat crab,must da bao for her.. After finish eating slp.. They don't appreciate..
So tell myself,try getting into relationship with foreign gals.. Did wasted some time and money for them, but it's good as I can study their culture and character.. So eventually, had a gf from Thai and together for 3yrs.. Everything is still very good,the honey moon is still on going.. She knows what I want.. And I am willing to spend on her.. It's much worth it.. Cos at least I am happy and we are planning to marry.. Some info of myself, I am just a normal looking guy,and she is real beauty,can fight with Thailand number 1 actress(if u guys go google),no joke.. I am a lucky guy..
If bros here had this kind of experience,they should know the difference between foreign gals and local gals.. Just sharing my experience.. So I will rather waste time and money for a foreign gal than SG gals.. And all my guys in office is all attach with foreign gals from Malaysia,china,Vietnam and Thailand.. No one's gf is a local!!!!!!!!
but you cant simply just pop by and hook to a thai girl right? play is play, but i think for a stable relationship should start off properly

[poi123]

but you cant simply just pop by and hook to a thai girl right? play is play, but i think for a stable relationship should start off properly

Yup.. That's y I learn some lessons 1st until I met my gf.. I spend quite sometime in courting her.. And the feel was like back in secondary school days courtship!! So sweet!! And its something that is so difficult to describe.. Just super duper sweet.. Just imagine the 1st time that u fall in love,not puppy love!! That is when I know she will be my last gal!!! Like I said, it's been 3yrs and we are still in honey moon stage.. Never felt tired even there is argument..

[happyguy1234]

wow u r really lucky bro.. tis kind of relationship now v hard to come by seriously

[HCKing]

Hi, I am new here,

I have not read through the entire thread, but I roughly guess the direction of the thread.

Firstly "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls" have no meaning unless you add a "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and I've also hang out with Singaporean girls" Even then, I am just guessing. Its not shameful to have poor sentence construction. It just gives me a headache trying to understand / guess what you are trying to say.

"The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you." As an educated woman (if you are), you should be looking at how history interprete this. Man are not whining at pampering woman, but rather looking for the woman that deserved to be pampered. Ci Xi, the emperess dowager had to be taught by whore, in order to be pampered by the emperor. But some singaporean ladies have it in reverse, and expect the pampering to be there, and think that they deserve it. Tell me, r there no girls who bring a condescending attitude to the relationship? I will tell you there are plenty. Is it limited to Singaporean ladies? no, of course no. but Singaporean ladies just show it more. (Its a question of branding, not performance)

"No, girls are not only interested in money." Nope, they are interested in the entire package, just like guys are interested in the entire package too.

But if you only have money and your character is lousy (which can be proven from the way you all complain which shows how little respect you show for women), DO NOT expect pretty girls who have the intelligence and wit to even like you. - character is developed through testing through fire , like how gold is tested through fire. even then, there are no pure gold, everybody has character flaws. And its those flaws that make the person unique. Just like yin and yang, every flaw is a strength and compliment to somebody's weakness and flaw. This is how real people function and perform. Perhaps its time to have a more realistic view of character, and at different point in time they are all lousy.

Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are. This takes the cake, as an equalizer, because likewise you are generalizing all singaporean men look for whores and are ungentlemanly. So the same emotion and feelings that lead you up to this climatic moment, when your emotions dictate you to express this out and write this out, is the same emotion that the men are expressing in the thread. Write or wrong, this are their emotions and experiences. For me, I'm still sleeping with local singaporean woman, and the intelligent and witty ones never walked away from me, so I should be doing just fine, irregardless of what you say or feel.

lastly, there are 14 instances of singular you, and 4 instance of you all, which suggest you are writing to someone that said the same thing to you, or perhaps dumped you because he couldn't stand your attitude. Of course, I am just guessing here. I could be wrong. In any case, I hope the guy with a perfect character comes along and may you meet him.

wonderful reply bro. +4 for your contribution.:D:p

[poi123]

wow u r really lucky bro.. tis kind of relationship now v hard to come by seriously

Thks bro happyguy1234, i wish all the guys here will be happy and lucky as well..

Not say SG gals not good, but the percentage is really low and I have to say(Pardon me),alot of gals r just GND,really nothing to wow about.. I have a lot of thai frens also tell me the same..hehe...

[itrr]

I think we know where this is leading to. :rolleyes: Nat, i belived you just enter adulthood from the way you speak. Even so, i think i am over estimating your age.

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:D

[sammybro]

Definitely not all of them but some gals do take things for granted

Dating foreigners can be really different because a lot of them very nice and gentle. A lot of my buddies went for foreign gals for wife as well. My gal is great hence not complaining, but she does take things for granted at times

[HCKing]

Just because your ex/girlfriend/wife is a local, you have to stereotype all local girls are like this. LOL. Why? Cannot find a good wife/girlfriend/ex, then blame all local girls. Pathetic or not? Because your character sucks (or because you're too fugly), if not sure have girls want. :) Unfortunately, you are the bunch of SUAY guys who only foreign want, and local girls treat you all like shit. (apparently?) SUCK IT UP. :D

eh i think character sucks or not isnt the main factor but how good is the guy's pampering of his girl matters the most.

i know of guys with the worst character but always getting the girls.:D

[drekman]

Yes they are too pampared.

[itrr]

eh i think character sucks or not isnt the main factor but how good is the guy's pampering of his girl matters the most.

i know of guys with the worst character but always getting the girls.:D

Ladies love bad men!! Lets face it, it's their dirty secret!

[avantas]

Hi all

Been wanting to contribute to this thread for some time now.

I guess everyone mature enough will understand that in every city around the world there is bound to be a sizable number of women (1-2%) that falls under the same criticism we used for the sg women. The interesting question to ask is "why do we feel it is such a big problem and why does it feel so obvious from SG Chinese women more than those from other nations or ethnic groups?".

One answer is the rapid growth of our country. Too much money available and too stable an environment breeds complacency. Women by nature always looks for what they themselves and their peers perceived as the best. Just that they become convinced that the likes of private bankers and hedge fund managers are available to them EASILY. Their concept of reality is all warped and they rather enjoy their financial independence than fall back to their mothers' role of being home makers and compromise with the average men.

Some of you may argue being unrealistic is too simple a reason but if you study evolution theories and some arguments from the players handbook you will come to understand that if a women doesn't marry someone of suitable status in a materialistic society like ours, they are in many ways culturally, psychologically and philiosophically failures. If they are a realistic 7/10 , they need to find an 8/10 else they feel like crap on the sole of someone's shoes. Men thinks differently. We can be a 7/10 but we prefer multiple 6/10s than a single 8/10 spouse but the issue is whether we can afford the multiples that keep us loyal to our spouse.

Another answer is the lack of competition and an entire generation of SG men conditioned to compromise and taught the benefits of "LAN LAN " mentality. We would all be aware of the phrase "LAN LAN " during our NS days where it simply describes a "Bo Bian" situation (out of control, pointless). We are coerce to believe that if your father can marry a Singaporean you should be able to do so, all women have some issues but as long as you are committed it would all work out. If things are tough, then "LAN LAN " lor.

However if you think of it seriously men in Singapore are often foolish idiots which gets us bullied at work as well by foreigners. The women here has already gone ahead with new open market, going for Ang Mohs, Indians and Africans while some of us are still begging for their attention and feeling sore over it. We all really need to understand the market place of love is much wider than our parents days especially since Singapore is a cosmopolitan city.

Don't bend over backwards for them, just find a better women. That's the best way to teach them that SG men can evolve as well. It is better than lamenting why the SG women can't see the virtues of a SG men anymore. Honestly if any of you read my recent thread about a girl getting STD at 19, you would realise some of them aren't worth marrying at all.

To summarize SG women has become too unrealistic about expectations due to the exposure of Singapore while SG men have too much ego over their birth right as SG citizens. What's the point of being an SG men if you are not fucking a women that looks good enough, gives you children and takes care of your household without burying YOU in debts.

You can't be a bum of course but we SG men should just stop trying to achieve what the women wants when those expectations are unreal

[pussyslime6]

interesting thread

[IwasApo]

Flowerpod your mother la eh. You think you funny? (:

I'm sorry I hit the nail on the head. Is that the best you can reply?

[NastyNate]

lol agreed with natlie900 :)

if you are good/rich/capable/handsome, girls will come to you ... likewise for girls... we need to be hot/sexy/pretty , guys will come to us :)

dont blame girls if you are just not up to it..

Thanks for backing all our assumptions up. That the materialistic SG girls look to good/rich/capable/handsome guys. You are obviously their representative.

[itrr]

Nat, I bet you were dumped in real life and you are looking for answers which explains your presence here. I know it's hard to be a social reject, you might want to look for caucasians,indians..etc As there might be a chance they will pamper you more then the typical singapore man. But if it turns for the worse, they might just fark your smelly hole and run off again. That is if your hole is worth chasing at all. :rolleyes:

To all members, please do not reply to "her" anymore as it seems its obvious where it is heading.

[IwasApo]

What the fuck did I just read?

"Firstly "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and hang out with Singaporean girls" have no meaning unless you add a "I do not think that Singaporean girls are too pampered as a girl myself and I've also hang out with Singaporean girls" Even then, I am just guessing. Its not shameful to have poor sentence construction. It just gives me a headache trying to understand / guess what you are trying to say."

Really? But it makes sense to me, and it seems that you understand too. :( Yup you can continue to guess and make illogical assumptions!

""The reason why you all think that Singaporean girls are pampered because you whiners, call yourself a "man", your personality sucks so bad that only whores will "like" you." As an educated woman (if you are), you should be looking at how history interprete this. Man are not whining at pampering woman, but rather looking for the woman that deserved to be pampered. Ci Xi, the emperess dowager had to be taught by whore, in order to be pampered by the emperor. But some singaporean ladies have it in reverse, and expect the pampering to be there, and think that they deserve it. Tell me, r there no girls who bring a condescending attitude to the relationship? I will tell you there are plenty. Is it limited to Singaporean ladies? no, of course no. but Singaporean ladies just show it more. (Its a question of branding, not performance)"

WHY did they whine? Because they claim local girls cannot satisfy their needs and whores are BETTER than local girls. True, since that is their occupation. But comparing whores to their girlfriend/wife? Does that even make sense? They think local girls are pampered, because they are suay to meet the ones who expect to be pampered but cannot satisfy them, and then STEREOTYPE all local girls are like this. Did you read or not? Their personality sucks NO DOUBT. And do you even have statistics to back up what you say?

" Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are.
This takes the cake, as an equalizer, because likewise you are generalizing all singaporean men look for whores and are ungentlemanly. So the same emotion and feelings that lead you up to this climatic moment, when your emotions dictate you to express this out and write this out, is the same emotion that the men are expressing in the thread. Write or wrong, this are their emotions and experiences. For me, I'm still sleeping with local singaporean woman, and the intelligent and witty ones never walked away from me, so I should be doing just fine, irregardless of what you say or feel. "

DID I? I said "YOUR needs", did I say "ALL SINGAPOREAN MEN"? I'm referring to the men HERE, dude. (:
By the way, you made a mistake. It is "right or wrong" and not "write or wrong". And what the fuck does whether or not you are doing just fine have to do with me? LOL.

I dun understand your frail and emotional rebuttal. :d

[ahyi_ahyi]

Long Time no contribute, so try one time here:

Let look at the market place :

a) Supply of foreign options are increasing for man, so does to ladies. However because of woman's "marry-up" mentality and men ability to "cross-border", the supply side is more readily available for man than woman.

b) Demand for spouse is more visible for man than woman. Having an asian culture, woman are more shy to "advertise" themselves and hence will more likely to miss out opportunities around.

Next we look at closure rate :

a) Majority of people will want an easy process of achieving something, including finding a spouse. When they are no options, the pursuer will have to adapt to find a mate. If there are wider options, the pursuer will be less willing to compromise to reach the same objective.


Conclusion:

Compared to 5-10 years ago, due to the supply/demand equation, man are more like to be the pursuer. So even if the SG woman behaved pampered, the man will still willing to adapt in order to close the deal.

I believed the SG woman now is NOT more pampered then before, but rather they behaved in the same way. However, the abundance supply of foreign women are forcing SG women to be the one that need to adapt more.

The Ang Moh route may not be a great choice either, with divorce rate hitting more than 50%, they are looking for leased-hold marriages rather than free-hold marriages.

So SG girls, i still love you a lot but if you wanna find a mate now, u better know how to adapt.

[joncheong]

Is this all that you can say? I thought you have lots to say. :( So disappointing.

Hi nat,

Tell me if u want to know investment bankers and traders.... I can intro you to them... They are the ones who can afford loads of LV, Gucci bags, chanel pendants and even a volkswagen sports for their girls...and all those material things sg girls love....

[IwasApo]

Is this all that you can say? I thought you have lots to say. :( So disappointing.

there's nothing to reply because its difficult to teach what requires 15 years of basic education, starting with using the quote or highlight button. :rolleyes:

" Just because Singaporean girls cannot satisfy your needs, you have to resort to complaining and looking for whores, which shows how unmanly you all are."

(used informally to indicate all members of a group, occupation, etc., or things of a particular type): Take your factory worker, for instance. Your power brakes don't need that much servicing.

"Your" is used here to generalize men at large, and the men at large cannot be satisfied by the Singaporean girls, it is therefore reasonable to assume that the men at large refers to Singaporean men as oppose to singaporean girls. nowhere in this sentence says "here in sbf"

its no wonder you got dumped. Its hard to communicate with people that twist and turn their words. :rolleyes:

[dodoboy]

hahaha, guys the "battle of the genders" will never have an ending. as it has been on-going for ages.

i suggest we leave this to rest, and work on finding ourselves a soul mate wr are comfortable with. learning to compromise would be best.

no one scores a perfect 10.

keep in mind, women are not meant to be trifled with. just take a look at the rights and laws given to them in advantage. do not make a wrong move.

enjoy !

[Linnie]

I think there is no need to complain about them being too pampered. Singapore is a country filled half with foreigners. Guys, there is just so much variety here. Why bother to aim SG girls only.. :rolleyes:

Just like the companies here, if you find locals overpriced or not good enough, you can always look for foreigners. :D

For me, I date multiple ladies simultaneously without considering their nationalities but somehow locals usually fell out of my selection list. The drop-out reason is usually because of lack of personality, worldly experiences and thinking. :o

[joncheong]

I think there is no need to complain about them being too pampered. Singapore is a country filled half with foreigners. Guys, there is just so much variety here. Why bother to aim SG girls only.. :rolleyes:

Just like the companies here, if you find locals overpriced or not good enough, you can always look for foreigners. :D

For me, I date multiple ladies simultaneously without considering their nationalities but somehow locals usually fell out of my selection list. The drop-out reason is usually because of lack of personality, worldly experiences and thinking. :o

true, it was once said, foreigners are CHEAPER BETTER and FASTER...

[onlyhuman]

Once a lady falls head over heels over you...pampered or not...they will treat u like a king regardless of race,culture or nationalities :D

[DYBJ]

Once a lady falls head over heels over you...pampered or not...they will treat u like a king regardless of race,culture or nationalities :D
Confirm Stamp Chop Agreed 101%
Very very absolutely true n correct bro :D

[IwasApo]

Once a lady falls head over heels over you...pampered or not...they will treat u like a king regardless of race,culture or nationalities :D

Only thing is for how long nia
Enjoy it while it lasts loh. :D

[DYBJ]

Only thing is for how long nia
Enjoy it while it lasts loh. :D
Guess tat also shows how deep is her luv for u too.
I can only say, after meeting in 1998 n now my number 2, she was from a good to do family, old man works for XXXX Embassy, mom is a Tai Tai, graduate from a Uni in Canada, youngest in her family, cant cook cant iron.
Now?????
Cook if reqd, iron sup sup sui, runs the biz n will still clean the sweat off my face when eating or walking till this day.
Several senior bros in this forum has met her b4 n their comments r always the same:
When ur around, I see a 小女人, when ur not, an Alpha appears within that 小女人

[IwasApo]

Guess tat also shows how deep is her luv for u too.
I can only say, after meeting in 1998 n now my number 2, she was from a good to do family, old man works for XXXX Embassy, mom is a Tai Tai, graduate from a Uni in Canada, youngest in her family, cant cook cant iron.
Now?????
Cook if reqd, iron sup sup sui, runs the biz n will still clean the sweat off my face when eating or walking till this day.
Several senior bros in this forum has met her b4 n their comments r always the same:
When ur around, I see a 小女人, when ur not, an Alpha appears within that 小女人

not everybody can be like Dage, can have best of so many worlds. :D I'm still a novice and still learning. :cool:

the girls I choose and find, all developed in Alphas after I train them up. They can run and manage different biz on their own without bothering me, I only see them when I want to see them. I know my $ is safe with them. Most will boil soup and make food I like and bring them over for me also. When I had trouble, one of them will also get me in touch with the right people to help me settle the problems. They also know each other exist, but they can't co-exist under the same roof. They can't even have a meal together without fighting.

But difference is they are FBs, not wives and they know their place. Not to mention my No 1 will kill me if she knows they even exists, or my r/s with them.

One day must get some precious lessons from Dage to help solve my problem on how to get them to all live under one roof. :D