Is the economy that bad?

[Mark Lee]

I went to my regular HC a few days ago after lunch. Usually there are bros sitting around the lounge watching tv, chatting and drinking kopi.

But at 2 p.m, I was the ONLY one there. So I ask the kopi soh how come today feels like seventh month (usually seventh month very quiet) .. she says it's been like that a few months already, then some girls score zero (eat eggs she say) a few days in a row.

Then I drop by my club house to relax a bit, went to the jackpot room to try and recover my HC cost .... also like ghost town. Last time pack until no machine to play, now become personal casino.

What's happening man??? I never go KTV so I cannot commend on that. But are bros really cutting back on expenses?

If like that go on, very soon the HCs and KTVs will be asking government for STIMULATING package :rolleyes:

[lblittlebear]

Yes, the economy is quite bad - I've not seen anything worse than this in the past 20++ years of my working life

I believe many of the bros here have either being retrenched or have asked to take no paid leave or pay cut

I got a 15% cut :(

That's why till now, I cannot understand why the current price still remains the same. For instance, I thought I read somewhere here that HJ with roaming is >90 at Adelhpi ????

I think it's high time for HCs, TNs etc to lower the prices a bit to encourage more bros from visiting. It's better than having no business

[HeadOn]

well even for bros who are not affected like me are also cutting back..cos most of us feared its just a time game, just a matter of time u will get affected..no one can be spared in this downturn....

i rem my 2nd last visit to a HC aft work which was couple of mths afo, the whole HC only got me!!!..ys, all rms are not occupied, they're all open!!..its really tat bad!

[canopener]

I agreed with bro lblittlebear. I was in Shenzhen and DG last month. The joints there are already giving discounts for more bros to be there.
Let's ask all the HC, Geyland places, etc to lower cost of bonking, so this would boost the activities. Forget stumulus package. Lower the price from 50 to 40. Perhaps Buy 1 give 1. :) Loyalty cards :)

[jedycity]

Yes, the economy is quite bad - I've not seen anything worse than this in the past 20++ years of my working life

I believe many of the bros here have either being retrenched or have asked to take no paid leave or pay cut

I got a 15% cut :(

That's why till now, I cannot understand why the current price still remains the same. For instance, I thought I read somewhere here that HJ with roaming is >90 at Adelhpi ????

I think it's high time for HCs, TNs etc to lower the prices a bit to encourage more bros from visiting. It's better than having no business

Bro lblittlebear,
I have many friends have pay cut 10% to 15%. Some was retreached. Some company closed down.

Some friends was PR status and was due for renew after 5 years. Then he was told by his HR that company will not renew for him. See so bad.....

And.... Heard some survey that 50% company in S'pore plan to retreach. And only 12% wish to employ people.

Haizzzz....so bad.

So, HC or TN should reduce their price. I myself is looking for cheaper release liao. Haizzzzzz

[Mark Lee]

That's why I am still surprised by HC charging $50-$60 for entrance and gals asking for $150 ...

Even TN gals ask for $50-80 for HJ ... WTH

Maybe they think Singaporean men all rich can still ketok. :mad:

[HeadOn]

That's why I am still surprised by HC charging $50-$60 for entrance and gals asking for $150 ...

Even TN gals ask for $50-80 for HJ ... WTH

Maybe they think Singaporean men all rich can still ketok. :mad:

well those who charge high usually have better facilities...those facilities cost $ n they need to recover..just like rental, u dun see rental coming down much despite the current situation...

as for y the gals still ask for tat price..hmm, i dun think we will go xtra one more time even if the price is cut by lets say 20 bucks?...so the WL might as well earn it now..

[Mondo]

So, HC or TN should reduce their price. I myself is looking for cheaper release liao. Haizzzzzz

agree cheaper is surely better. but don't compromise on service. :)

maybe they afraid that once price drop, its very difficult to raise back up again when the situation is not so bad. you know us being typical sporean la bro. :p

[lblittlebear]

Yeah, even KL reduces their prices too ....

For me, with a 15% pay cut, of course my $$$ to spend for entertainment would also go down by 15%.

Time for HCs/TNs to reduce the prices ... if not, all of us will end up PCC

It's time for HJ to be 30 only (without much neg). Now, many (even those old milfs) still insist 50 and another 20 !!! to remove the top or allow roaming ...

Like that, cannot lah ...

I agreed with bro lblittlebear. I was in Shenzhen and DG last month. The joints there are already giving discounts for more bros to be there.
Let's ask all the HC, Geyland places, etc to lower cost of bonking, so this would boost the activities. Forget stumulus package. Lower the price from 50 to 40. Perhaps Buy 1 give 1. :) Loyalty cards :)

[lblittlebear]

That's right ... from the way I observe, I believe many more companies will be retrenching soon ...

Previously, it is reported that the no of retrenchments in Singapore may bit 99,000. I think this may represent a lesser number as we all know, there are many "phantom workers" in Singapore - these people does not work but still on payroll and receive some CPF money because bosses try to beat the foreign quota

So actual jobless rate in Singapore can be quite high ...

Recently, most of the TNs I go to are very empty - I'm the only customer during that 1-2 hr slot. Only good thing is I can choose any of the 5 girls.

Suddenly, I felt like I was in KL HC - I can see and choose as I like :)

well even for bros who are not affected like me are also cutting back..cos most of us feared its just a time game, just a matter of time u will get affected..no one can be spared in this downturn....

i rem my 2nd last visit to a HC aft work which was couple of mths afo, the whole HC only got me!!!..ys, all rms are not occupied, they're all open!!..its really tat bad!

[lblittlebear]

If we're MAN UNITED, we don't need to ask all the HC etc to lower costs

We just let our action talk.

These days, I'm also very "niao" and would not pay more than $30 for HJ (of course must include roaming). Unless the lady is supe syt/chio or super good service, then I'll give another 20-30 as tips

This will differentiate the good ones from the lousy ones

Likewise for BJ/FJ.

If I need to pay $50 for HJ, add another $20 for roaming etc, I would like go to FL and I can do whatever I want !

It's time for HCs/TNs to wake up ... Your good times during good economy have come to an end.

I agreed with bro lblittlebear. I was in Shenzhen and DG last month. The joints there are already giving discounts for more bros to be there.
Let's ask all the HC, Geyland places, etc to lower cost of bonking, so this would boost the activities. Forget stumulus package. Lower the price from 50 to 40. Perhaps Buy 1 give 1. :) Loyalty cards :)

[lblittlebear]

I certainly agree with you those with good facilities can charge more

But many those like those little TNs in say, PPC also charge very high. For those who charge high without good services, facitilities or syts, I'll ask them to fly kite :)

If prices is cut down by 20, I'm pretty sure some would go extra. It's like 20 save for each of 5 occasions (total = $100) can lead to you having 1 more !

well those who charge high usually have better facilities...those facilities cost $ n they need to recover..just like rental, u dun see rental coming down much despite the current situation...

as for y the gals still ask for tat price..hmm, i dun think we will go xtra one more time even if the price is cut by lets say 20 bucks?...so the WL might as well earn it now..

[HeadOn]

I certainly agree with you those with good facilities can charge more

But many those like those little TNs in say, PPC also charge very high. For those who charge high without good services, facitilities or syts, I'll ask them to fly kite :)

If prices is cut down by 20, I'm pretty sure some would go extra. It's like 20 save for each of 5 occasions (total = $100) can lead to you having 1 more !

hmm, i dun go TN so i m not in the best position to comment..maybe cos TN shop are more prone to raid, so massage wanna charge high?..those gals maybe on social pass, so they need to earn enuff in tat period of time n hence wanna charge higher?..

not true if will go extra time..cos ur total outlay given a period of time will sky high just to get back the one free session earned...

[lblittlebear]

? Suppose you want to spend 300 each month for releasing stress

If HJ costs $50, with $20 entrance fee, you can only have 4 times (4x70 = 280)

If HJ costs $30, even with $20 entrance fee, you can have 5-6 times ! (6x50 = 300)

Since one already wants to pay $300, definitely a cheaper price would encourage him to go for another extra 2 times.

Suppose we have 10% pay cut, so entertainment fee is now $255 (15% of 300 is $45

If HJ still costs, $50, then can only have 3 times since 4 times would cost $280 > 255

But if HJ is only $30, you can still have 5 times

Am I wrong in my calculation ?

Lowering in prices definitely helps in encouraging more brothers to spend




not true if will go extra time..cos ur total outlay given a period of time will sky high just to get back the one free session earned...

[HeadOn]

? Suppose you want to spend 300 each month for releasing stress

If HJ costs $50, with $20 entrance fee, you can only have 4 times (4x70 = 280)

If HJ costs $30, even with $20 entrance fee, you can have 5-6 times ! (6x50 = 300)

Since one already wants to pay $300, definitely a cheaper price would encourage him to go for another extra 2 times.

Suppose we have 10% pay cut, so entertainment fee is now $255 (15% of 300 is $45

If HJ still costs, $50, then can only have 3 times since 4 times would cost $280 > 255

But if HJ is only $30, you can still have 5 times

Am I wrong in my calculation ?

Lowering in prices definitely helps in encouraging more brothers to spend

nope..u r 100% correct!!, if u r using ur scenario for calcualtion...like if HJ is $50, $20 off is like 40% off!!...like wise FJ is $120, $20 is just 16.6% off nia..so encourage more times, the % discount should be significant

but wat i m seeing is the no of times u go per mth..not really like budget a certain amt of $ in a mth...at least for me, i budget based on no of times per mth....;)

[lblittlebear]

OK lah, different people have different measurements

I go by the amount to spend :)

But even for those who go by no of times per month, when prices of cheaper, wouldn't you be itchy to go for that extra 1-2 times from the savings

For me, even say if go by no of times a month, assume 8 times a month (twice a week), if suddenly the prices go down, I wouldn't mind to have an extra shot :)

If HJ becomes $5, I would love to be there everyday instead of 8 times a month

nope..u r 100% correct!!, if u r using ur scenario for calcualtion...like if HJ is $50, $20 off is like 40% off!!...like wise FJ is $120, $20 is just 16.6% off nia..so encourage more times, the % discount should be significant

but wat i m seeing is the no of times u go per mth..not really like budget a certain amt of $ in a mth...at least for me, i budget based on no of times per mth....;)

[maituleow]

If HJ becomes $5, I would love to be there everyday instead of 8 times a month

If HJ becomes $5, You are probablly retrenched liow.

[Winstonsg]

Hi Mark,

Well the economy wasn't that good for many countries around us, but the recent tour show @ Suntec was still pack with a lot of people booking for holiday except they are heading for countries in Asia region such as Japan or Thailand or Bail.

I have a friend wanted to visiti Japan recently and was told the flight for one of the tour left only two seats so has to make decision fast fast.

For stress release at home, brothers will have to seek other alternative such as visiting Petain Rd area for a lesser price and not too bad services. Some girls there their services not bad also.

[HeadOn]

OK lah, different people have different measurements

I go by the amount to spend :)

But even for those who go by no of times per month, when prices of cheaper, wouldn't you be itchy to go for that extra 1-2 times from the savings

For me, even say if go by no of times a month, assume 8 times a month (twice a week), if suddenly the prices go down, I wouldn't mind to have an extra shot :)

If HJ becomes $5, I would love to be there everyday instead of 8 times a month

ys, only if the discount is signicant, the svc u asked for n also the no of times u go per mth even w/o discount..onl if all 3 are in your favour, then u will go more times..

but tat doesnt benefit the WL..If HJ has drop from $50 to $5, u will go there everyday instead of 8 days a mth..in other words, to earn tat $50, she has to give u xtra 22 days of HJ for free!!..lol

[mandy2008]

Very bad! just walk in to any CDC office & you would find a queue standing or sitting waiting for their turn to be interviewed. The crowds at Job Fairs is another indication. also long queue are courses run by all CET institutions approved by WDA. pity the sight at Security Industry Institute, you see white hair men & women signing up for security courses. A few were shouted at when undergoing assessments to pump up their aggressiveness. hope samster Waggie8888 could return to SBF. during his time, his gals go for $50 for 2 hrs for unlimited shots. with his help, the price was jacked up to $60. hope he could return to SBF to lead the gals to accept $50 competitive package. anyway, PRCs suck us dry in $ terms. They have no remorse emptying our pockets for personal survival. Sg men when cheated finished them off before being sent to the gallows by our justice system. sigh why lidat?

[chukeliang]

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But at 2 p.m, I was the ONLY one there. So I ask the kopi soh how come today feels like seventh month
Then I drop by my club house to relax a bit, went to the jackpot room to try and recover my HC cost .... also like ghost town. Last time pack until :[/QUOTE]
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Only place pack is internet shop foreigner on visit applying job

[LostALau]

Those bros who kena 10 to 15% pay cut are very lucky liao. My friend told me he kena 40% pay cut and is considering himself lucky for holding on to the job. He is now thinking of other ways to make up the loss but the fact is things seem to be heading for the worse. Even our PM told us don't look for him if you have problems and u are on yr own feet.

I am quite lucky that my unstable income is still quite stable but with the economy heading downward, I think I also have to save money for rainy days liao.

Those ppl who queue for places to travel are people like the civil servant in the recent scandal case who can afford a 'few' tens thousand on a cooking class. You know which class they belong to. If you want to be like them, try to get the same kind of iron rice bowl lor.

[lcbguy]

Our company is also doing badly.I'm prepared for the worst case(retrenchment ?!) scenario.I think the recession will get worse.Zzzz......

[lblittlebear]

Relax, relax, the $5 for HJ is just used as an example only ;)

I know it would not happen.

But I think it's fair to everyone if HJ is $30 instead of current $50 (or 50+20 to include roaming)

Let's get realistic in current economy .... even at $30, it's quite a good deal considering it's only a 5-10 min of work.

With 5-10 customers a day, any PRC doing the job can earn >6K a month. That's even more than some managers

And I'm assuming HJ only hoh ...

ys, only if the discount is signicant, the svc u asked for n also the no of times u go per mth even w/o discount..onl if all 3 are in your favour, then u will go more times..

but tat doesnt benefit the WL..If HJ has drop from $50 to $5, u will go there everyday instead of 8 days a mth..in other words, to earn tat $50, she has to give u xtra 22 days of HJ for free!!..lol

[lblittlebear]

Yes, it was reported in papers that many people are booking holidays but most are there for cheaper destinations and after massive discounts

Still, the "many" people are not as many as before. There were also many people who went there just to look and not necessarily to book. This is like 7000 people applied for 1800 Duxton HDB flats but still ended up with 500++ vacancies for 2nd launch

Of course, papers will still report many go to trade shows to book for holidays. Otherwise, lesser people will go right ?

Hi Mark,

Well the economy wasn't that good for many countries around us, but the recent tour show @ Suntec was still pack with a lot of people booking for holiday except they are heading for countries in Asia region such as Japan or Thailand or Bail.

I have a friend wanted to visiti Japan recently and was told the flight for one of the tour left only two seats so has to make decision fast fast.

For stress release at home, brothers will have to seek other alternative such as visiting Petain Rd area for a lesser price and not too bad services. Some girls there their services not bad also.

[lblittlebear]

My company got 15% cut and from the management, that may not be the final cut yet

They already consider to implement shorter work week - e.g. work for 4 days instead of 5 per week and hence salary only cover 4 days/week. This is like another 20% cut on top of the 15% already !!!!

Heard that it will be implemented in April.

Of course, even it's 4 days/week. It does not mean your job workload is reduced. Still need to work at home. That means electricity bill going to go up as well :(

Like that, how not to hope for lower price in TNs/HC ...

Those bros who kena 10 to 15% pay cut are very lucky liao. My friend told me he kena 40% pay cut and is considering himself lucky for holding on to the job. He is now thinking of other ways to make up the loss but the fact is things seem to be heading for the worse. Even our PM told us don't look for him if you have problems and u are on yr own feet.

I am quite lucky that my unstable income is still quite stable but with the economy heading downward, I think I also have to save money for rainy days liao.

Those ppl who queue for places to travel are people like the civil servant in the recent scandal case who can afford a 'few' tens thousand on a cooking class. You know which class they belong to. If you want to be like them, try to get the same kind of iron rice bowl lor.

[HeadOn]

Relax, relax, the $5 for HJ is just used as an example only ;)

I know it would not happen.

But I think it's fair to everyone if HJ is $30 instead of current $50 (or 50+20 to include roaming)

Let's get realistic in current economy .... even at $30, it's quite a good deal considering it's only a 5-10 min of work.

With 5-10 customers a day, any PRC doing the job can earn >6K a month. That's even more than some managers

And I'm assuming HJ only hoh ...

lol...i know u r joking lar....keke

well i always feel the price here is too exp, even in gd times....now in bad times, even worst!!...now i begin to feel like 100 bucks is v big!!...with tat amt, i can lotsa chicken rice liao..lol

[bigstick]

[QUOTE=Mark Lee;3551270]I went to my regular HC a few days ago after lunch. Usually there are bros sitting around the lounge watching tv, chatting and drinking kopi.

But at 2 p.m, I was the ONLY one there. So I ask the kopi soh how come today feels like seventh month (usually seventh month very quiet) .. she says it's been like that a few months already, then some girls score zero (eat eggs she say) a few days in a row.

Then I drop by my club house to relax a bit, went to the jackpot room to try and recover my HC cost .... also like ghost town. Last time pack until no machine to play, now become personal casino.

What's happening man??? I never go KTV so I cannot commend on that. But are bros really cutting back on expenses?



Yes bro, the economy is very bad.

There was a retrenchment in my company in December 08. If the business situation is not improving by end of this month, another batch face the axe. As for me, I am not sure whether my name will be in the list.... frightening ya.

Pray hard the economy improves and turns around quickly so that the HC will not close down..... FLs are also badly affected as well. I am not sure about GL coz I don't go there....

[HeadOn]

Yes bro, the economy is very bad.

There was a retrenchment in my company in December 08. If the business situation is not improving by end of this month, another batch face the axe. As for me, I am not sure whether my name will be in the list.... frightening ya.

Pray hard the economy improves and turns around quickly so that the HC will not close down..... FLs are also badly affected as well. I am not sure about GL coz I don't go there....[/QUOTE]

v sad to tell u tat the worst has yet to come..everyone is expecting 1st qtr results will be v bad..if it turns out to be much uglier than expected, cfm tsunami of retrenchment coming up..we will be in a fat U shap recovery....n it will not happen till at least yr end or begining of next yr..meantime, co will go into few rds of retrenchment exercise.haizz..

dun care about how HC, GL or FL survive...worry about urself 1st

[terrarompa]

Off topic a bit, anyone can share which industries are cutting pay the most? I'm in the IT sector, cuts between 5-10%.

[lblittlebear]

Banking & Financial/Insurances ...

Off topic a bit, anyone can share which industries are cutting pay the most? I'm in the IT sector, cuts between 5-10%.

[Durian Head]

So far, I am the fortunate one, still got job,
still got pay, no mention of pay cuts
yet, as it is a small company.

I used to go to visit one TN lady regularly
and she give me hj as a compliment (damage
$80 for 2 hrs massage plus $20 tips) but
alas she had gone home.

Now I would go for my regular masseur at
hotel damage : $80 (1.5 hr massage + hj)
plus $20 (hotel).

[GhostRay]

If we're MAN UNITED, we don't need to ask all the HC etc to lower costs

We just let our action talk.

These days, I'm also very "niao" and would not pay more than $30 for HJ (of course must include roaming). Unless the lady is supe syt/chio or super good service, then I'll give another 20-30 as tips

This will differentiate the good ones from the lousy ones

Likewise for BJ/FJ.

If I need to pay $50 for HJ, add another $20 for roaming etc, I would like go to FL and I can do whatever I want !

It's time for HCs/TNs to wake up ... Your good times during good economy have come to an end.OMG $50 for HJ + $20 for autoroam. I add $10 more I can ask a $60 FJ + $20 room. Got BBBJ, autoroam, painting, french etc.

Sorry, no way I will paid that much for HJ session.

I did get those $50 for HJ. I only counter offer $30 & I told them can autoroam. Any of those not met, then no special for me.

[longwinter]

OMG $50 for HJ + $20 for autoroam. I add $10 more I can ask a $60 FJ + $20 room. Got BBBJ, autoroam, painting, french etc.

Sorry, no way I will paid that much for HJ session.

I did get those $50 for HJ. I only counter offer $30 & I told them can autoroam. Any of those not met, then no special for me.

actually HJ session is the most bo hua de lo, tried before, and l feel like no kick or no sense of satisfaction. Maybe cannot satisfy the animal and beastly lust in me bah. :D

l rather use the $$$ to enage a love making session wif a fl or wl. :D

[orche]

During the US Great Depression in the 1930's, the unemployed had to Q for free

hot soup n bread.

Would S'pore cater to local taste by offering teochew porridge at CDC?

[pig40]

Free vegetarian meals at Kim Yam Road, off River Valley Road, Buddhist Lodge. Many foreign workers already know the place.

[pig40]

in 1982, this massage joint was at PPC 2nd storey, near overhead bridge. at that time, massage session is $26 for 45 mins. hj was $20. now the shop is selling buttons, sewing stuff.

[johngan]

It's bad but shouldnt dwell on it. Otherwise it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy! We need some positive news

[BlurWolfe]

This is the time may be let those WL at home shake legs and been "bao" to come out to face the music.

Let them stand in the street and try for $40 or less.

Bros who has 'bao' any WL, look n see you got better choice and dispose them before losing your capital.

[CPTMiller]

I guess things is worst then what the government has reported.
No matter how the govt try to paint a better picture.
Most people would have guess the actual situation when 20K people queve up for a 800 job vancancy in Resort world Sentosa.

Entertainment expenses for most companies would have to be cut too.
Business is bad for most sector.


I went to my regular HC a few days ago after lunch. Usually there are bros sitting around the lounge watching tv, chatting and drinking kopi.

But at 2 p.m, I was the ONLY one there. So I ask the kopi soh how come today feels like seventh month (usually seventh month very quiet) .. she says it's been like that a few months already, then some girls score zero (eat eggs she say) a few days in a row.

Then I drop by my club house to relax a bit, went to the jackpot room to try and recover my HC cost .... also like ghost town. Last time pack until no machine to play, now become personal casino.

What's happening man??? I never go KTV so I cannot commend on that. But are bros really cutting back on expenses?

If like that go on, very soon the HCs and KTVs will be asking government for STIMULATING package :rolleyes:

[BlurWolfe]

One other words of advice just got from fortune teller.

Those with WLs how you know they not killing your business, better check and dispose them if necessary.

[lblittlebear]

Yes, we need positive news ... one positive news would be HJ reduced to 20-30 officially :)

It's bad but shouldnt dwell on it. Otherwise it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy! We need some positive news

[mit1686]

Yes, we need positive news ... one positive news would be HJ reduced to 20-30 officially :)Actually if given a choice,i will never take up HJ unless she really dont do other service. As u know we all got two hand ten fingers, we can always hid inside the toilet and do it diy for free.

[tailgunner]

True, true......right hand hold the $30, left hand do the job. After that, clean up and bring the kids to MacDonald's for a treat. Still got some change left!!

[Mark Lee]

in the late 90s, a Toyota Corolla cost about $90k plus ... Marine South HC gals charge $150.

Now, Toyota Corolla cost less than $60k and Dragon gals still charging $150. :D

[lblittlebear]

Sure, sure, I'm only using HJ as an example only to show HJ should be reduced from 50 to 30

This would mean other services need to go down, right ?

Actually if given a choice,i will never take up HJ unless she really dont do other service. As u know we all got two hand ten fingers, we can always hid inside the toilet and do it diy for free.

[owen10]

let me share somethg i encountered last nite in GL.

was walkin somewh along L14. all d lorongs were relatively quiet on a fri nite. most gals were virtually paa-ing bungs. biz muz hv been slapped hard by d recession.

suddenly kena pulled by 1 PRC, quite young, acceptable looks lah.

rejected her. she refused to let go, kept clinging on for a gd few mins, n held on to my jeans pocket. told her i really needed to rush off, in d end she said she'll let me off if i give her $2. then she reduced to $1 ... not tt im stingy lah but i was juz put off by such tactics. n bein d nice guy im i did not wanna tick her off lah :D. i told her i need wdl fr atm, dun hv loose notes. in d end she seemed to give up, asked me she'll let go if i give her any few cents i have. kaozz .. few cents oso want ... i dug deep into my pocket n gave her few cents. she let me go with tt disappointing look. :D

my pt is, biz may hv been hit so badly tt many of d PRCs probly can end a nite w/o any biz. hence some of them could b real desperate like d above.
there r 100s of hookers along d lorongs, d luckier n prettier ones can probly clinch 2 or 3 deals but d inferior qty ones may nt hv such luxury. many of them come using 1 mth pass so if they cant get at least 1 custmr/day they may get pretty desperate. i thk if bros hv gd nego skills n sweet talk d gal, they can strike a gd deal! for d gal it's definitely better gettin somethg much lesser than zero biz for d nite!

[aegis]

Hmmm..
$1 for a hug
$2 for a kiss
$5 for roaming
$10 for hug,kiss,roam.
I think they can work out a pricing structure for simple pleasures..Some guys can "chk out" the girl before they strike a deal...Anyway,just my kuku brain at work here...Any economist here can advise?

[owen10]

Hmmm..
$1 for a hug
$2 for a kiss
$5 for roaming
$10 for hug,kiss,roam.
I think they can work out a pricing structure for simple pleasures..Some guys can "chk out" the girl before they strike a deal...Anyway,just my kuku brain at work here...Any economist here can advise?

hahaha ... i dun mind man but not d kissing part ... thk abt it, it can b quite a gd deal for d gals ... they can do short time in d dark alley n earn a few quick bucks for juz a few mins. but thk abt d kissing part can b very disgusting ... imagine hw many bros of diff races n age they might hv kissed n u could b swallowing some other bros' saliva. yikesss!!! :D

[lacoruna69]

i thk if bros hv gd nego skills n sweet talk d gal, they can strike a gd deal! for d gal it's definitely better gettin somethg much lesser than zero biz for d nite!

It is always tough surviving in GL. But situation had been made worse by the recession. I can see a lot of PRCs offering discount or extra services nowadays. Only those who are flexible and offer genuine good value services can survive.
Since I'm the customer, I would want to get the best out of my $ in these times too.

[compaq69]

Those stand on the street will be badly hitted, those with license one only suffer a small dip in their daily income.

[HCKing]

Hmmm..
$1 for a hug
$2 for a kiss
$5 for roaming
$10 for hug,kiss,roam.
I think they can work out a pricing structure for simple pleasures..Some guys can "chk out" the girl before they strike a deal...Anyway,just my kuku brain at work here...Any economist here can advise?

quite hard 4 my kuku brain to ensure a hug remains a hug, slowly a hug will lead to a kiss, a kiss will lead to roaming, then..........:o

[longwinter]

let me share somethg i encountered last nite in GL.

was walkin somewh along L14. all d lorongs were relatively quiet on a fri nite. most gals were virtually paa-ing bungs. biz muz hv been slapped hard by d recession.

suddenly kena pulled by 1 PRC, quite young, acceptable looks lah.

rejected her. she refused to let go, kept clinging on for a gd few mins, n held on to my jeans pocket. told her i really needed to rush off, in d end she said she'll let me off if i give her $2. then she reduced to $1 ... not tt im stingy lah but i was juz put off by such tactics. n bein d nice guy im i did not wanna tick her off lah :D. i told her i need wdl fr atm, dun hv loose notes. in d end she seemed to give up, asked me she'll let go if i give her any few cents i have. kaozz .. few cents oso want ... i dug deep into my pocket n gave her few cents. she let me go with tt disappointing look.

my pt is, biz may hv been hit so badly tt many of d PRCs probly can end a nite w/o any biz. hence some of them could b real desperate like d above.
there r 100s of hookers along d lorongs, d luckier n prettier ones can probly clinch 2 or 3 deals but d inferior qty ones may nt hv such luxury. many of them come using 1 mth pass so if they cant get at least 1 custmr/day they may get pretty desperate. i thk if bros hv gd nego skills n sweet talk d gal, they can strike a gd deal! for d gal it's definitely better gettin somethg much lesser than zero biz for d nite!

Woah now got so jialat ah? Even will pull customers and ask for sum $$$ before letting go har. :confused: Normally when l go for sight seeing, l see liao, they pull or call for me, l just siam and move off fast fast liaos, leaving them no chance to chup pattern on me.

Actually what they can do is really improve their services lo. l suppose alot of bros here have very bad impression of these streetwalkers liaos. The patterns and stunts they play quite famous liaos. Everytime onzz liao, attitude change liao, go in room always fast and rushing de, not willingly to provide decent services, can shortchange us, they just do it, and their mafu always call and call them to come down asap.

So unless there is really improvement, l doubt their business will become good. summore nowadays not like last time liao, enconomy also no good le. :(

Everytime l walk to the darlene that side, saw some really pretty gals, l will always tink how nice it would be if their services are good. If they provide me good services, and 1 solid hr, l dun mind patronising de. But reality and fantasy dont collide together. :(

[longwinter]

quite hard 4 my kuku brain to ensure a hug remains a hug, slowly a hug will lead to a kiss, a kiss will lead to roaming, then..........:o

haha, yea l agree on this part lo, hug hug liao, kiss kiss liao, the bird below sure very itchy, crying for more actions liao.

sure nid to release liao lo, if no release, very xin ku also. :o

[eurotrash]

am new in singaproe...what is HC? thanks mate

[terrarompa]

am new in singaproe...what is HC? thanks mate

Hi Mate,

I guess u r Caucasian? HC simply means "Health Center", or massage parlor. Most of the HCs mentioned in this forum provide extra services (or "special" as many ppl call it), and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure what these extra services entail.

Anyway, try to surf this forum more to find out the lingo involved. Local Singaporeans use a lot of colloquial slang to communicate, which might take a bit of getting use to.

Have fun!

[SeAHuM]

Its freaking bad! Companies cutting 20% is a norm, if not go for 4 days week. Its better to 4 days week than work 5 days and cut 20%.

Personally kena 25% cut. Its like a take it or leave it case. What to do? Took it and said thank you very much for not retrenching me.

But in HC and KTV, girls still tell you everything so expensive now, so price have to go up or remain the same! If not how to take taxi!

.................

[kim-seng-heng]

With the stock market rallying last few days , I guess the economy has reached the bottom and will be rebouncing very soon. I was told that there are more orders now for electonic sector compares to last two quarters.

[Devilzz]

With the stock market rallying last few days , I guess the economy has reached the bottom and will be rebouncing very soon. I was told that there are more orders now for electonic sector compares to last two quarters.Bro,confirm bo, like that i will buy abit manufacturing shares.

[owen10]

Woah now got so jialat ah? Even will pull customers and ask for sum $$$ before letting go har. :confused: Normally when l go for sight seeing, l see liao, they pull or call for me, l just siam and move off fast fast liaos, leaving them no chance to chup pattern on me.

...

desperate as it may sound but its true. usually if im nt interested i'll juz walked off w/o establishing eye contact. this PRC happened to pull my arm, I found her quite cute cute, so juz itchy mouth asked for her name ... then she started to cling on, i wanted to shove her off but she was like a lil leech. usually d PRC will let go if she knows u r nt interested but nt this one ....

im nt sure if bros ever bumped into those PRCs @ Lor 14, d pathway next to d condo ... some of d PRCs r especially daring .. they will hug u 1st n even stroke yr cock ... sometimes with their hand, sometimes with their knee .... right in public view. some of them nt too bad lookin so can really buay tahan n cock harden fast. :D

[longwinter]

desperate as it may sound but its true. usually if im nt interested i'll juz walked off w/o establishing eye contact. this PRC happened to pull my arm, I found her quite cute cute, so juz itchy mouth asked for her name ... then she started to cling on, i wanted to shove her off but she was like a lil leech. usually d PRC will let go if she knows u r nt interested but nt this one ....



Haha, who ask u itchy mouth la. :p

[Mondo]

economy good = save $

economy bad = spend $

i think this is the cleverer way, and not spend when economy is good and vice versa.

what you guys think? ;)

[CPTMiller]

Should let LKY and his elite know your theory.
But they might have already voice out to us.
:D

economy good = save $

economy bad = spend $

i think this is the cleverer way, and not spend when economy is good and vice versa.

what you guys think? ;)

[HeadOn]

economy good = save $

economy bad = spend $

i think this is the cleverer way, and not spend when economy is good and vice versa.

what you guys think? ;)

ur theory is not correct...cos if save $, how can economy be good then?..likewise if spend $, how can economy be bad then?...

the thing here is when every idiot is chasing aft something, u better stay away..cos its just a matter of time it will burst

[Mark Lee]

let me share somethg i encountered last nite in GL.

was walkin somewh along L14. all d lorongs were relatively quiet on a fri nite. most gals were virtually paa-ing bungs. biz muz hv been slapped hard by d recession.

suddenly kena pulled by 1 PRC, quite young, acceptable looks lah.

rejected her. she refused to let go, kept clinging on for a gd few mins, n held on to my jeans pocket. told her i really needed to rush off, in d end she said she'll let me off if i give her $2. then she reduced to $1 ... not tt im stingy lah but i was juz put off by such tactics. n bein d nice guy im i did not wanna tick her off lah :D. i told her i need wdl fr atm, dun hv loose notes. in d end she seemed to give up, asked me she'll let go if i give her any few cents i have. kaozz .. few cents oso want ... i dug deep into my pocket n gave her few cents. she let me go with tt disappointing look. :D

my pt is, biz may hv been hit so badly tt many of d PRCs probly can end a nite w/o any biz. hence some of them could b real desperate like d above.
there r 100s of hookers along d lorongs, d luckier n prettier ones can probly clinch 2 or 3 deals but d inferior qty ones may nt hv such luxury. many of them come using 1 mth pass so if they cant get at least 1 custmr/day they may get pretty desperate. i thk if bros hv gd nego skills n sweet talk d gal, they can strike a gd deal! for d gal it's definitely better gettin somethg much lesser than zero biz for d nite!

damn sad la ... almost like begging ... luckily most singaporean don't have to do this ... can still approach your CDC for help if you really got nothing to eat. But all bros (especially uncles) have to be careful in Geylang ... desperate people will do funny things to get $$$. Must not fall prey to con job and sob stories.

[peterfish]

Times are really bad and ppls have no money to eat let alone call whores. :(

[Mondo]

ur theory is not correct...cos if save $, how can economy be good then?..likewise if spend $, how can economy be bad then?...

the thing here is when every idiot is chasing aft something, u better stay away..cos its just a matter of time it will burst

maybe you misunderstood my meaning, what i meant is when economy is good (everyone makes $$$) so therefore keep and save. When ecomony is bad (Everyone not making as much when economy is good) so therefore spent those that you saved.

but what you said is true about every idiot chasing after... :D

[HeadOn]

maybe you misunderstood my meaning, what i meant is when economy is good (everyone makes $$$) so therefore keep and save. When ecomony is bad (Everyone not making as much when economy is good) so therefore spent those that you saved.

but what you said is true about every idiot chasing after... :D

true..wat u said is not wrong...but then how many pple can do tat?..economy gd spend less n save more?...is usually economy gd, spend as much..when economy bad, no more left to spend..go ard looking for help...

n who indirectly created those idiots?..:D...the one u vote for every election?..keke

[big_cojones]

sigh...
yes times are bad...
i'm affected too, wanna go relieve myself also cannot...
pay cut...

no drinking or womanising... life is meaningless...
SBF account kena deleted, left with no points...

[tonychacha]

Yo all,

I went to GL Lor 10 last Sat and it seems that the FLs were asking $80/1/45mins nowadays?

Can any bro confirm that this is the market rate now?

Cheers

[peterfish]

soon..........even staring at GL PRC streetwalkers, they will start asking you for 1-2 dollars liao..................

[jamesyong007]

So... have any bros here been to any TNs or HCs recently that have started giving discounts but still retain good service?

The one I used to visit have only pushed the prices up in the recent years due to good business, but due to the economy now, that place is like a ghost town but they are still charging as much.

[lblittlebear]

Cannot be ... otherwise on any alley, you may end up forking out $60-100 because there can be at least 30-50 street walkers :)

Even 1K is not enough if all charge you $1-2 dollars for bio-ing :)

soon..........even staring at GL PRC streetwalkers, they will start asking you for 1-2 dollars liao..................

[HeadOn]

Even 1K is not enough if all charge you $1-2 dollars for bio-ing :)[/QUOTE]

wei, dun open such ideas..wait OKT see liao might think tat's a gd idea!!..imagine u need to pay to look, tat would be intteresting..lol

[lblittlebear]

Don't think it would happen. That's why I said "cannot be" in my previous postings

If they charge $1-2 for bio-ing, we also charge them $10 for bio-ing us ! If she doesn't bio me, how come she knows I bio her :) ?


Even 1K is not enough if all charge you $1-2 dollars for bio-ing :)

wei, dun open such ideas..wait OKT see liao might think tat's a gd idea!!..imagine u need to pay to look, tat would be intteresting..lol[/QUOTE]

[HeadOn]

[QUOTE=lblittlebear;3564983]Don't think it would happen. That's why I said "cannot be" in my previous postings

If they charge $1-2 for bio-ing, we also charge them $10 for bio-ing us ! If she doesn't bio me, how come she knows I bio her :) ?

of cos wont lar...just a joke nia....

but during gd days, already lotsa bioing for free liao..imagine bad times now, i like 1 in 10 only end up calling

[pig40]

i only beo postings that advertised $50 bonks in view of the economic downturn. only with cim that i allow the gal to kotok me at $60. must say that the deported Liyue was really a gem. very unfortunate of her to be caught by anti-vice in late Feb 2009.

[peterfish]

[QUOTE=lblittlebear;3564983]Don't think it would happen. That's why I said "cannot be" in my previous postings

If they charge $1-2 for bio-ing, we also charge them $10 for bio-ing us ! If she doesn't bio me, how come she knows I bio her :) ?

of cos wont lar...just a joke nia....

but during gd days, already lotsa bioing for free liao..imagine bad times now, i like 1 in 10 only end up calling

now ppls can only see but very few can afford to bonk.

[Greyface]

The bad times are not affecting some places like Dong Men, with the bad times & the shit customer service they provide, they are still doing well.

[peterfish]

The bad times are not affecting some places like Dong Men, with the bad times & the shit customer service they provide, they are still doing well.

soon Dong Men will suffer cos words of mouth will spread and more and more ppls will give tha t place a miss.

[liuyidao2009]

something is wrong. despite the recession, many okts instead of bringing down the price of their wl, they instead have jack up to 50/1/1 or 80/2/2. i think most brothers who asked for nbrs are asking for fun (nbr collectors). only the wl knows whether the business promotion thru internet is working. some even said milf material and dares to ask sky high prices.